Citroen WRT

[Rally Power]

Meeke has been widely regarded as a great development and test driver

Yep, the Mini, the 208 and the C3 are there to prove it...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The fact is that if Hyundai hadnt grabbed Tanak then there would be no free seat at Toyota and Ogier wouldnt have moved from Citroen.

That was the real catalyst to the inevitable exit of Citroen. One team having 2 of the Big 3 was really bad for the WRC.

[RAS007]

Meeke has been widely regarded as a great development and test driver

I am a fan of Kris Meeke, but I'm really not sure about this........

[rallyfiend]

Ogier made a 2-year commitment to Citroen
Citroen made a 2-year programme around this commitment.

Ogier has refused to live up to his word and is leaving after one-year.

So Citroen leave the WRC.

F*#k Ogier.

He is not a man of his word and a scumbag who deserves all the tarnish this puts on his reputation and legacy.

I'm sure the 150 or so staff at Citroen Racing who are probably losing their jobs because of his complete narcissism would agree with this.

[GravelBen]

If you really believe the Citroen spin about the reason for leaving, and that the decision to leave WRC wasn't made first. Could well be the other way around, that Ogier only started talking to Toyota because Citroen wouldn't guarantee another season of competing.

[RS]

No matter how understandable it can be, the truth is that Citroen immediate pull out feels like a low blow on the WRC and on Citroen staff and fans. The car has improved on gravel since Finland and with only 1 tarmac rally, alongside the new upgrades, it’d likely be more competitive next year, even without Ogier at the wheel.

For sure Ogier is free to look for a better team, especially after Catalunya’s fail, but one should also remember his off in Sweden, his crash in Sardinia and his poor performance in Finland (while Lappi being P2) to realize that Citroen and the C3 can’t be entirely blamed for him not getting the tilte.

Yes, Ogier was mathematically in the fight for the title up until the penultimate event so it’s feasible with some improvements on the car he could have fought again next year.

If Citroen had seen it through until the end of next year it would have felt like a natural end. This kind of fucks everyone over.

[RS]

What's the chanse we could see private Citroëns competing here and there next year? Abu Dhabi money, Ostberg,..

I was hoping there might be some semi-private team built on the ruins like when Skoda ended the Fabia WRC programme and we got ‘Red Bull Skoda’ who ran some fairly decent drivers. But from the Citroen press release there was no mention of the C3 WRC being available to privateers.

Best hope is they might put some decent support behind a WRC2 programme .

[GigiGalliNo1]

Ogier made a 2-year commitment to Citroen
Citroen made a 2-year programme around this commitment.

Ogier has refused to live up to his word and is leaving after one-year.

So Citroen leave the WRC.

F*#k Ogier.

He is not a man of his word and a scumbag who deserves all the tarnish this puts on his reputation and legacy.

I'm sure the 150 or so staff at Citroen Racing who are probably losing their jobs because of his complete narcissism would agree with this.

So a company gives you a product to use and you are the best person who has used all the products bar one that compete against it... yet when you start using that product it's of a lower grade to the others, yet the manufacture of said product has a great history of excellence...

You personally fail with this product due to the quality, you try your best, you have had the emotions of joy and frustration throughout... and you hear someone now blame you from the side lines (such as your comments) that you aren't the best, it's your fault that the product is not the best... what else does the company do? Quit? Blame the user in this case? Try a new user? Work on the product?

Makes sense yes?

[rallyfiend]

So a company gives you a product to use and you are the best person who has used all the products bar one that compete against it... yet when you start using that product it's of a lower grade to the others, yet the manufacture of said product has a great history of excellence...

You personally fail with this product due to the quality, you try your best, you have had the emotions of joy and frustration throughout... and you hear someone now blame you from the side lines (such as your comments) that you aren't the best, it's your fault that the product is not the best... what else does the company do? Quit? Blame the user in this case? Try a new user? Work on the product?

Makes sense yes?

He signed a contract.

Life is tough. It doesn't always work out.

He's run off and broken his contract.

He's a piece of sh*t because he wasn't willing to work with the team to improve the product over the time he committed.

[AnttiL]

I was hoping there might be some semi-private team built on the ruins like when Skoda ended the Fabia WRC programme and we got ‘Red Bull Skoda’ who ran some fairly decent drivers. But from the Citroen press release there was no mention of the C3 WRC being available to privateers.

Pierre Budar said in David Evans' podcast that the cars will likely be available for rent or on sale. But remember that it's much more expensive now than 10 years ago.