10th June 2018, 00:43
A point that Colin Clark mentioned on the kitchen table , the driver after Seb Loeb to have the most WRC wins in a Citroen is Kris Meeke , a fact that isn't a fact as Seb Ogier won more rallys in a Citroen than Meeke , but we all need to draw a line under the whole situation and move on , after all there are somethings that happen in life that we don't like however the sun will rise tomorrow again and what will be will be just accept it and move on.
Colin Clark now supports fake news ………..
Last edited by satnav; 10th June 2018 at 17:13.
Reason: Stating a true fact
10th June 2018, 06:49
Talking about facts forgotten in a sorry state of affairs, Colin Clark forgot that Ogier won more rallies with a Citroen than Meeke, although Ogier was a rather newbie to the sport at the time.
Originally Posted by satnav
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10th June 2018, 17:09
Thanks for the correction , I didn't check what he said was correct , seems not even Colin gets it right all the time .
Originally Posted by AnttiL
10th June 2018, 19:25
Last year with 3 cars Citroen finished Sardinia with 1 destroyed car and 9th place. This year with 2 they finished 5th and 6th all cars ok.
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10th June 2018, 23:31
just when you are stating facts.. here is a few more.
Originally Posted by mknight
fact 1, might as well not have been at the rally. zero exposure.
fact 2 only for mikkelson, latvala, tanak technical failures they would be 8th and 9th.
fact 3 the car is atleast 0.5s per km off the pace.
fact 4 as a team, if you are happy with that performance, then you have serious problem.
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11th June 2018, 02:21
Calling an opinion a fact doesn't mean its actually a fact.
Last edited by GravelBen; 11th June 2018 at 02:23.
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11th June 2018, 02:38
I may be misremembering, but I think Citroen are way closer to the rest of the field in terms of manufacturer points than they were at the same stage last year, despite only running two cars.
That said, I found their signing Kris Meeke incomprehensible at the time, and I found their leaving WTCC and committing to WRC incomprehensible at the time, and so far they haven't done anything to make me question my initial impressions. But I'm thankful that they are in WRC and apparently staying for at least one more year. I hope they'll be a permanent fixture in the championship; they're the Ferrari of WRC.
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20th June 2018, 10:28
M-Sport WRC Champions
Citroen-Sport putting in Mads Østberg in place of Meeke was no surprise... what other option was there ?
I'm happy for Mads, but he isnt going to bring any wins and isnt the answer long-term.
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20th June 2018, 12:07
I think that they count on Paddon or Sordo but they realize that this can't happen. So their remaining was only Ostberg and nothing else.
20th June 2018, 19:16
Mads is an appropriate solution for the remainder of this year, maybe next year as no.2 or no.3.. but for next year they need a number one. I don't think Craig is at that level yet.
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC