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    Quote Originally Posted by racerx1979 View Post
    I never heard there was a buy-out clause. Budar mentioned they would settle it in court.
    No, he mentionned they've found an agreement.

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    Ogier était sous contrat jusque fin 2020, comment a-t-il pu s’en dégager ?
    "Effectivement, le contrat allait jusqu’à fin 2020. Il y a rupture de contrat. Dans ces cas-là, soit on va au tribunal, soit on trouve un accord à l’amiable. On a engagé des négociations et trouvé un accord avec Ogier."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredouye View Post
    Ogier était sous contrat jusque fin 2020, comment a-t-il pu s’en dégager ?
    "Effectivement, le contrat allait jusqu’à fin 2020. Il y a rupture de contrat. Dans ces cas-là, soit on va au tribunal, soit on trouve un accord à l’amiable. On a engagé des négociations et trouvé un accord avec Ogier."
    Ogierは2020年の終わりまで契約を結んでいましたが、どうやってそれから脱出したのですか?
    「実際には、契約は2020年の終わりまで続いていました。契約違反があります。その場合、裁判所に行くか 、友好的な合意を見つけます。オジェと。」

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    Bit of karma for Citroen dropping meeke mid season leaving him high and dry now they've been dropped and left high and dry. Sorry to see a manufacturer leave but they only have themselves to blame slow development is no doubt the key to their downfall. And with no long term ambitions after 22 it's understandable that no number 1 driver would want to be associated with them

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    Quote Originally Posted by wia5958 View Post
    Bit of karma for Citroen dropping meeke mid season leaving him high and dry now they've been dropped and left high and dry. Sorry to see a manufacturer leave but they only have themselves to blame slow development is no doubt the key to their downfall. And with no long term ambitions after 22 it's understandable that no number 1 driver would want to be associated with them
    Man.

    I was a Citroen fan, and I was a Meeke fan, it was perfect.

    Then they fired him so I was just a Meeke fan.

    Now it looks likely no more Meeke.

    I said a few rallies ago that if Meeke weren't in it I'd be a Latvala fan.

    Oh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wia5958 View Post
    Bit of karma for Citroen dropping meeke mid season leaving him high and dry now they've been dropped and left high and dry. Sorry to see a manufacturer leave but they only have themselves to blame slow development is no doubt the key to their downfall.
    The slow development argument is BS; Ogier was leading the series until Sardinia and despite the hydraulic issue in Catalunya he shouldn’t blame the car or the team for loosing the title. He crashed in Sardinia, felt ill in Finland and got a puncture in Germany; adding his off in Sweden makes one to realize he was less regular than the previous years. The C3 wasn’t the fastest car around (especially on tarmac) but in 2017-18 Ogier wasn’t also driving the fastest car; his regularity was then the key to become champ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allez Andruet View Post
    No-one has broken any contracts here. If the reports are true, there was a buy-out clause in Ogier's contract and TGR simply exercised it.
    Nope. As it was already told, Budar clearly said that Ogier broke the contract but a deal was reached to avoid future litigation. It’s not hard to guess that Ogier (using Toyota’s money) eventually sent a big fat divorce check to Citroen...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarmop View Post
    Umh? Tänak`s contract ended, he was a free man. He isn`t connected and doesn`t have to rely on Citroen`s and Ogiers plans/ wishes. He filled his contract, that ends/ ended, moved forward, Toyota did the same. What the F are you on about now?
    OK Tanak was out of contract, but in effect he left Toyota who wanted to keep him after winning two titles.

    Tanak joining Hyundai (with Neuville) was a big surprise and has done the WRC no favours, and has now effectively caused the loss of Citroen.

    Does anyone think the WRC is now in a better position than 2019 ?
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    I believe that Citroen still think of pulling out before 2020 season begins, even if Ogier was still there. Rumours start before we knew that Tanak is linked to Hyundai team. They just grab the moment and occused Ogier for leaving. Budar says that simply they can't provide development so fast like Ogier wanted, but M-Sport could do that with far less budget and far less people behind. I think that they don't want to and simply politicaly end that for all.

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    Sorry no, listening to Budar's interview (a pretty honest guy I think) it seems pretty clear they were to going 'finish the job' in 2020.

    Lappi also said how surprised he was and how many improvements have been made ready for the C3 for next year.

    But there was no way they thought they could chase titles without one of the Big 3 and that's what they needed to do to justify the programme.
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