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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli View Post
    I was talking about the Jokers.
    Feel free to do that. (just kidding )

    They have a limited amount of jokers per year / homologation period. Looking at the list of homologations for Hyundai, it’s possible to make a new joker homologation every month if they want to spend all the jokers right away. Citroen’s Patrice Davesne said in an interview (RallySport Magazine October 2016, page 44-45 https://issuu.com/hi-techmedia/docs/...e_october_2016) that regarding the engine they have 3 jokers per year.

    “We can make changes, but some parts of the engine are frozen by regulations for three years. For example bore is not allowed to change, the distance between cylinder and the distance between camshaft can’t change. But we have three jokers per year and, for example, we can change in the same year the pistons, connecting rods and oil sump. Each year there are three jokers and we can use as we want.”

    Davesne said three jokers but Hyundai have made four jokers for the engine?

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    HYUNDAI (page 33):

    01.01.2017 400/01 WRC VARIANTE KIT WRC 2017
    01.01.2017 401/01 VO VITRAGE / WINDOWS
    01.01.2017 402/02 VO MOTEUR / ENGINE
    EQUIPEMENT ELECTRIQUE / ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT
    TRANSMISSION / POWER TRAIN
    SUSPENSION / SUSPENSION
    TRAIN ROULANT / RUNNING GEAR
    CARROSSERIE / BODYWORK
    01.01.2017 403/01 VF MOTEUR / ENGINE
    01.02.2017 404/01 ER MOTEUR / ENGINE
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    01.03.2017 406/04 VO SUSPENSION / SUSPENSION
    TRAIN ROULANT / RUNNING GEAR
    CARROSSERIE / BODYWORK
    01.04.2017 407/02 ER MOTEUR / ENGINE
    TRANSMISSION / POWER TRAIN
    01.04.2017 408/03 ER SUSPENSION / SUSPENSION
    01.04.2017 409/04 ER SUSPENSION / SUSPENSION
    CARROSSERIE / BODYWORK
    01.06.2017 410/05 VO CARROSSERIE / BODYWORK
    01.07.2017 411/01 ERJ MOTEUR / ENGINE
    01.03.2017 412/06 VO MOTEUR / ENGINE
    SUSPENSION / SUSPENSION
    TRAIN ROULANT / RUNNING GEAR
    CARROSSERIE / BODYWORK
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    01.10.2017 419/04 ERJ MOTEUR / ENGINE
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    Thankx for the extended info
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    Mads left for France to meet the Citroen team today, and the plan is to get first test tomorrow, Mads told a Norwegian newspaper during Rally Finnskog yesterday.

    Not sure where he will test tomorrow, but probably at a Citroen Test venue.

    He need to find some snow and ice asap! How much is he allowed to test before sweden? Are there limitations?
    If this becomes more than a one off, he needs to get a C3 R5 to get familiar with size and form, and get Citroen km.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    Mads left for France to meet the Citroen team today, and the plan is to get first test tomorrow, Mads told a Norwegian newspaper during Rally Finnskog yesterday.

    Not sure where he will test tomorrow, but probably at a Citroen Test venue.

    He need to find some snow and ice asap! How much is he allowed to test before sweden? Are there limitations?
    If this becomes more than a one off, he needs to get a C3 R5 to get familiar with size and form, and get Citroen km.
    Well, outside of a certain circle of distance (I forget how far) to the team's main base there is a limitation of test days (which I forget the number of as well). All teams except Toyota have to leave that circle to get realistic test conditions for Sweden. Given that Sweden is such a specific rally and that Mads will play a far smaller roll in Citroen's makeup I fear he'll not get an awfull lot and therefore probably not ideal amount of testing. At least he'll be able to risk a bit more since he doesn't have to finance each piece of the car he breaks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    Mads left for France to meet the Citroen team today, and the plan is to get first test tomorrow, Mads told a Norwegian newspaper during Rally Finnskog yesterday.

    Not sure where he will test tomorrow, but probably at a Citroen Test venue.

    He need to find some snow and ice asap! How much is he allowed to test before sweden? Are there limitations?
    If this becomes more than a one off, he needs to get a C3 R5 to get familiar with size and form, and get Citroen km.
    Think he will test on gravel in France, just to get used to the car.
    There will be a test in Sweden on Saturday, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watson View Post
    Well, outside of a certain circle of distance (I forget how far) to the team's main base there is a limitation of test days (which I forget the number of as well).
    50 km
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    Seems that Mads is having Adapta and OneBet backing for his Citroen deal

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    Snow at Citroen Racing HQ is convenient. Any test roads nearby ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Snow at Citroen Racing HQ is convenient. Any test roads nearby ?
    Probably the road won't have an icy surface underneath the snow, so it will be very different to Rally Sweden

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    But it will be slippery, and thats the Citröen worst surface and good for Mads to understand what they have to do before sweden test.

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