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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Usual bullshit from Er88 when its a perfectly debatable subject and a reason why Citroen could soon employ a 3rd car (and out of work driver).
    It's still only your fantasy that Citroen would add a third car, and another fantasy that the driver would be Breen. They would for sure rather use Østberg who's doing testing work for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Usual bullshit from Er88 when its a perfectly debatable subject and a reason why Citroen could soon employ a 3rd car (and out of work driver).
    Whatever, you started this by claiming after listening to Clark that Citroen covet the manufacturers more than the drivers.

    People have just told you that's not true, and why. Even using evidence such as what Pierre Budar has told you about where their priorities lie. Even if he didn't explicitly say it, you'd just have to look at the team line-up and number of cars to realise that...

    Again, nobody has said they wouldn't add a third car later in the year if the chance is there to win the manufacturers, but it still won't be their priority and it's still not something on their agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    It's still only your fantasy that Citroen would add a third car, and another fantasy that the driver would be Breen. They would for sure rather use Østberg who's doing testing work for them.
    Especially if they decide to add a third car on the second half... Gravel. Breen was 7th in Germany last year about 30 secs behind Andreas M. I think Mads would easily be choice even if he was not doing any testing with the team. Breens only chance may be with M-Sport...

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    Citroen is the only team to be on the podium every rally this year – always first or second. In 2017 they managed only three podiums and five in 2018.

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    And 4 rallies gone and Citroen still 2nd in the Championship.
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    Well yes but after this performance they will surely use any extra funds to also work on the tarmac car before Germany rather than on running a 3rd car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Citroen is the only team to be on the podium every rally this year – always first or second. In 2017 they managed only three podiums and five in 2018.
    Citroen is the only team to have Ogier this year with all due respect to Lappi.
    If in doubt, flat out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli View Post
    Citroen is the only team to have Ogier this year with all due respect to Lappi.
    But Lappi is the only "second" driver to be on the podium this year, if you consider Evans as M-Sport first driver.

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    Can we imagine seeing the new aero kit for the end of the year at least?

    "At this point, I can not give you a date. According to the results that will be obtained in tests. In function, one will homologate or not. The aero is a particular area, because it is a long job and requires a lot of calculations and possibly the wind tunnel. You have to make drawings, molds, then pieces and try to make them fit so that everything works in all conditions. So it is something that is very expensive, in terms of time and approval also in number of jokers. It is an extremely sensitive subject so I do not want to give a specific date. We will not go if we are not convinced that this is not the right solution and that it is validated. "
    Especially when Sebastien asks suspension evolutions, it can complicate this arrival of the aero?

    "It's not antinomic. But if we also work on suspension jokers, we will not have them on the aero, so we will have to make choices. We work on several chapters and we have to work well to use the jokers available wisely. Finally, it is not easy to make a commitment on a date, and it does not bring us much. "
    Now, go to South America. What is the test program?

    "In Portugal, we have a pretty heavy program next week, and we will probably try the aero again. We will necessarily work on the Argentina / Chile duo with two days per driver. As there is a link between the two rallies, we must in particular renew the same dampers, we must have a setup almost identical between the two events.
    The aero is predominant now and one wonders how much?

    "We have seen the importance of the aero on these new cars, it is part of the big differences between the old and the new WRC. Obviously, the higher the speed of passage and the more important it is. We tried to evaluate in tests many times the importance of the Earo, and each time, it is very impacting on performance, both on land and asphalt. What is complicated on earth is that you have to manage to make the aero run with changes of attitude that are much more marked than on asphalt. On the asphalt, the car has a more constant attitude, and in the ground, it is necessary that the aero works when the car has tancage, when it sits or when it crashes, but also when it is skidding . So it's very complicated to have aero parts that go beyond a straight line, we often destroy the aero in these possibilities. The hard part is to make the parts work in all the attitudes of the car. It's specific to the rally. Obviously, they do extraordinary things in circuit but with cars still stuck to the ground. "
    Does Citroën work in the wind tunnel?

    "Of course, we did that especially in England. We have a wind tunnel in the Paris region but which is not very suitable. "
    How many people work on the air just?

    "It's hard to divide the staff like that. We have size means we will say but we can not do what we want either, we have financial limits like everyone, unfortunately and fortunately, because it avoids us to scatter on all topics without too much reflect.

    Basically, on a WRC type program, we are about 110 people. "
    Finally and finally, a question about Esapekka. Is his attitude, rather casual and uncomfortable, normal and not good for the image of Citroen? Can this work?

    "First, I get to know Esapekka and Janne well, I know how they feel. I do not take it for spite, but at the same time, when you do not make a good time and that it does not go, his attitude seems normal to me. On a rally like this where he had performance problems and his teammate too, we quickly realized that it was a problem of settings on the car and he is very disappointed, because we were mistaken collectively, the pilots were also present during the tests. And he's part of the collective. It is his personality to express it like that, again, we can not expect him to be cheerful and enthusiastic at the arrival of special as in Corsica. I do not mind if it stays measured in what he says. I know it might be more exciting for you if he made thunderous statements but he really wants to convey his disappointment. This is the intention he wants to pass. He's also a laid-back boy, but in all his attitudes, even when he wins, it's the famous Finnish phlegm. "

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