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22nd November 2017, 13:47 #941
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Matton's admitted they couldn't match the offers Ogier had received elsewhere. Looks like Citroen are not going to be around WRC long-term if their budget is so tight.
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23rd November 2017, 10:02 #942
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Could also mean that Ford comes with big money to secure Ogier.
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23rd November 2017, 10:07 #943
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23rd November 2017, 13:09 #944
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Ogier priced himself out of Citroen ,
Hydaundi and Toyota. He undoubtly wants no1 status, which could conflict the teams current driver line up. Redbull doesnt fit with Citroen. If he is talking about retirement already he not going to be about for long term contract. if toyota or hydundai hire him, and he wins the championship... ogier won the title.. not the manufacturer.. so could be considered a negitive for manufacturer. He won the chamionship on consistency, not outright speed. You can only do that for so long, before the others get their act together. He is not the quickest guy in the championship anymore.. but top 3. he has a wife and child, and has already indicated wife wants him to stop. he has about €20m in the bank. so all in all, this is why he is left with ford or retirement.
amen.
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23rd November 2017, 13:59 #945
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Looks like Hyundai, Toyota and maybe Citroen are playing their "smart" game.. I mean they don't really want him then he have no other options than M-Sport. We all know that they will not be competitive for so long (if Ford don't back them up). Then they have "smart" way of equally chances for titles for a lot less money.. Let's face it, he is most expensive in the market... And like wrc2017 said he is not fast anymore (maybe he still is), but he win in the smartest way and that's only thing that is important at the end. Nobody remembers second or third places.. Maybe other teams want to prove that they have the quickest cars and want to win with that.. I don't know
That's my theory.
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23rd November 2017, 15:41 #946
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Citroen stated they targeted bringing in Ogier for 2018 (and so let Mikkelesen go to Hyundai). So they didn't think he wasn't fast any more, or soon looking to retire ...
Plus Ogier had the car advantage at VW, hence why he was fastest so often then. His 2017 Season and team was a whole new ball-game.
He is smart AND fast. That's why he's the Champion.#M-SPORTER
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23rd November 2017, 15:59 #947
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if he retires he knows its the right time.
if he goes with ford, he will not be 2018 champ.
simple
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23rd November 2017, 18:46 #948
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I heard a rumour (and you may choose to either believe or not) that the main reason behind Ogier not going to Citroen was related to Khalid Al Qassimi not wanting him in the team, because of personal reasons.
This is related to that other rumour that appeared a few weeks ago about two "separate" teams.
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23rd November 2017, 22:27 #949
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The rumour that came out didn’t mentioned personal reasons; it was about a clash between Abu Dhabi and Red Bull. Al Qassimi family is one of the Emirates rulling families and apparently there’s a Red Bull ban in the UAE. That clash is also the reason why Khalid is entering next Dakar on a separate team (PH Sport) from Peugeot, although he’s in fact using a works 3008.
Probably we’ll never know what really happened in Ogier talks with WRC teams; Makinen, Nandan and Matton gave their own versions, but they sounds they’re not telling all.
Anyway, what really matters now is to see Ogier’s deal with MSport and Ford 100% confirmed. If so, maybe next year, by this time, Mr. Wilson will be thrilled with another title, while rival team managers will feel sorry for not having hired the 6 times champ!Last edited by Rally Power; 24th November 2017 at 19:48.
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23rd November 2017, 22:42 #950
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I rather see Loeb doing some rally s thats always nice to watch to see that man drive!
Yesterday Chris Ingram posted he was doing a shakedown of the Polo R5 so it seems he's continuing in that car for the Jim Clark. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7OEfYKoYV1/?igsh=czZzYzB1dm9zeHd4 ...
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