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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    Multiple rally winners that are out of contracts after 2018:

    Ogier,
    Neuville
    Latvala

    Single rally winners that are out of contract after 2018:

    Paddon,
    Sordo
    Østberg
    (think Evans also has contract next year)

    Unexpected signings might happen, like when Neuville went from M-Sport to Hyundai after finishind 2nd in 2013.

    It is also possible they might let Tidemand drive some rallies that don't overlap with WRC2 plans this year.
    And that makes it look so bleak for Citroen. I'm fascinated to see what plans they actually have for 19/20, as I still can't see them sticking around if they can't get an elite driver.

    IMO they aren't going to get a better driver than Kris unless they give Ogier the biggest contract in WRC history. Even then Seb isnt motivated by money, he's motivated by championships and there's a big question mark over whether he will even continue in the sport anyway.

    Neuville isn't going to leave Hyundai and Jari probably isn't a step up from Meeke + doesn't know the C3 at all. It leaves Citroen taking a gamble on Paddon or trying to nurture Tiedemand (although I have a feeling his future is linked with Skoda's return to the WRC). Sordo, Ostberg and Breen would be one of the most dull WRC team lineups since Gardemeister/Kresta in 2005, unless Breen can find another level (fingers crossed he can). Everyone already knows Sordo and Ostberg aren't really drivers who can fight for wins on a regular basis.

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    I don't see Sordo going back to Citroen. Budar has stated he wants a settled squad with full time drivers, doesn't even want Loeb next year if he only wants to do a few rallies (although head honchos may overrule that) and Dani doesn't seem keen on full program any more.
    That and the fact he is mates with Kris, probably knows how much of a turd the c3 is.

    He is doing well in the rallies he's been doing this year, can see Hyundai retaining him.

    Edit: agree re tideman, think he should stay on skodas books if they are coming back to wrc proper, would be better long term prospects.
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    Ask yourselves which top driver would take gamble with the dog that C3 WRC seems to be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonkka View Post
    Ask yourselves which top driver would take gamble with the dog that C3 WRC seems to be?
    According to Budier Meeke was gambling his life.. given 9th and 10th.. it certainly looks that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrc2017 View Post
    According to Budier Meeke was gambling his life.. given 9th and 10th.. it certainly looks that way.
    For God’s sake, stop bashing Citroen just because they fired Meeke. Even the Brit journos that spent last year defending him recognized that Meeke has become a loose canon and there was no other choice for Citroen. Besides, you should take a look on your hero path: besides Opel on his first JWRC season and Mini in 2011, Citroen and Peugeot were the only brands supporting Meeke through his rally career; without the French he would probably have retired a long time ago.

    Btw, the WRC isn’t about driver A or B; it’s about the manus that choose to be part of this sport, giving the most talented drivers a chance to live their passion and delight the fans. Without manus the WRC becomes insignificant; we should be asking manus to get in and stay, not to leave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    For God’s sake, stop bashing Citroen just because they fired Meeke. Even the Brit journos that spent last year defending him recognized that Meeke has become a loose canon and there was no other choice for Citroen. Besides, you should take a look on your hero path: besides Opel on his first JWRC season and Mini in 2011, Citroen and Peugeot were the only brands supporting Meeke through his rally career; without the French he would probably have retired a long time ago.

    Btw, the WRC isn’t about driver A or B; it’s about the manus that choose to be part of this sport, giving the most talented drivers a chance to live their passion and delight the fans. Without manus the WRC becomes insignificant; we should be asking manus to get in and stay, not to leave.
    Citroen performance is now an complete embarrassment. They cant even blame the drivers now. without retriements they would be 8th and 9th. they cant even say they had 1 competitive time today. if they are trying to promote their brand.. it not working out too well. what part of that do you not get.

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    Competitive times
    1: https://www.ewrc-results.com/results...2018/?s=172256
    2: https://www.ewrc-results.com/results...2018/?s=172263
    3, so-so: https://www.ewrc-results.com/results...2018/?s=172257

    There`s nothing to catch anymore anyway, so why total cars in the process? Like Meeke and Loeb showed, it can be competitive.
    Last edited by Tarmop; 8th June 2018 at 20:50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrc2017 View Post
    Citroen performance is now an complete embarrassment. They cant even blame the drivers now. without retriements they would be 8th and 9th. they cant even say they had 1 competitive time today. if they are trying to promote their brand.. it not working out too well. what part of that do you not get.
    It can be hard for you to understand: I’m not a Citroen fan, I’m a rally fan. Anyone can see they’re still struggling to be at the top but we all should be wishing they can get there asap and praise their efforts, instead of bashing them on a permanent basis.

    Btw, like Tarmop showed, the C3 can’t be so bad when Ostberg is able to do the same time of an Ogier in attack mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrc2017 View Post
    Citroen performance is now an complete embarrassment. They cant even blame the drivers now. without retriements they would be 8th and 9th. they cant even say they had 1 competitive time today. if they are trying to promote their brand.. it not working out too well. what part of that do you not get.
    Does it hurt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by danon View Post
    Does it hurt?
    That Citroen are like a rudderless ship? No. it actually quite funny.

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