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    Rollo you're kidding about California, No?

    2012 California President: Romney vs. Obama
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    Quote Originally Posted by ioan
    Try to see the positive side of this: none of them can be worse than G W Bush.
    True, but Romney can be close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rollo
    From the outside, this looks like the most boring and dull presidential race I've ever seen.
    From the inside it is exciting. I think the DNC got off to an inspired start last night, and tonight Uncle Willie, aka President Bill Clinton is no doubt going to "knock one out of the park"

    Gov. Deval Patrick

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    Mayor Julian Castro's keynote address:

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    Decision should be very simple. Who of the two would you have run your household and bank account and investments that you work hard for and saved?
    Keep it fast, keep it real!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FIAT1
    Decision should be very simple. Who of the two would you have run your household and bank account and investments that you work hard for and saved?
    Who of the two will give you that PLUS the opportunity to work hard, have a household, a bank account, investments and savings?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FIAT1
    Decision should be very simple. Who of the two would you have run your household and bank account and investments that you work hard for and saved?
    Before or after Tax?
    BTW that is in fact as you say a very simplistic choice: confused: IMO.
    While you are at it define "worked hard for" because there are a great many people in this world that really can't do too much hard work.
    My quadriplegic son is one of them!
    May the forza be with you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Giacomo Rappaccini
    From the inside it is exciting. I think the DNC got off to an inspired start last night, and tonight Uncle Willie, aka President Bill Clinton is no doubt going to "knock one out of the park"

    Gov. Deval Patrick

    Gov. Deval Patrick: This Is 'Election of a Lifetime' - YouTube

    Mayor Julian Castro's keynote address:

    Julian Castro Speech at DNC Democratic National Convention - YouTube

    Michelle Obama's Speech:

    Michelle Obama DNC Speech Democratic National Convention Part 2 - YouTube
    Caro dottore dun ya think it can get a lil cornfusink if ya'll say 'Uncle Willie?'
    Ya'll know what 'willie' is slang for dontcha?

    'Sides, the Republican guy's named Willard. Willard, we seen it right on the birth certificate. (him being the anchor baby for his illegal immigrant Dad)
    Willie could be folksy slang for Willard si?

    Why do they hide his real name I wonder? Willie hides his real name, hides his tax returns, hides his off-shore bank accounts, hides how Bain Capital paid out huge bonuses to themselves while negotiating the hundreds of millions of debt with FDIC when they acquired some lousy NE Bank that failed..(that's real success, Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation negotiating with Bain and accepting they din't have any cash-- which they didn't have because they just paid out all the cash they had to the "officers" of the Corporation so that they could argue they "couldn't" pay FDIC. Corporate Socialism at its best!)

    But he's a wonderful man. I'm sure. tareup:Just he's seems to hide everything about himself. Could be nothing.
    Could be that he learned early on he can do anything he wants regardless of the rules for others, and get away with it.
    John Vanlandingham
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Giacomo Rappaccini
    Before or after Tax?
    BTW that is in fact as you say a very simplistic choice: confused: IMO.
    While you are at it define "worked hard for" because there are a great many people in this world that really can't do too much hard work.
    My quadriplegic son is one of them!
    Define? Worked for it and saved it. Please don't use your son for misplaced political agenda. We all have awesome responsibility to everyone who needs help, from the child to elderly. that was not what I was refering to. I did say household and money therefore still leaves you with a choice that you have to make to place your vote.
    Keep it fast, keep it real!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by race aficionado
    Who of the two will give you that PLUS the opportunity to work hard, have a household, a bank account, investments and savings?
    Agree, that question should be directed to 23 mil or more without work also.
    Keep it fast, keep it real!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FIAT1
    Decision should be very simple. Who of the two would you have run your household and bank account and investments that you work hard for and saved?
    Agreed it should be simple.
    Should we vote for somebody who inherited millions, started life with a trust fund set up by his daddy which insulated him from the negative outcomes of his decisions meaning he never had to give any thought to making a budget to live on and meant the hard decisions were things like which of all the cars he owned should he drive today and how to "protect' the millions he started with, who could buy whole businesses at fire sale prices with leveraged money, and pay himself millions per year with that barrowed money, and if the combined debt meant the business could not make profits, just liquidate the business and pocket the money,

    Or a man who started with just his brains and paid the rent, bought his own cars, his own groceries, the light bill, the water bill, etc in the same way I do, from wages?
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