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    2012 Presidential Race

    From the outside, this looks like the most boring and dull presidential race I've ever seen. Romney's campaign is "I'm not Obama" and Obama's campaign is "I'm not Romney". Neither side has outlined any real vision for where they'd put America in four years time and a lot of the adverts just seem to be adding to the already toxic politic mix that is already alienating voters.

    PBS has a handy calculator to tell you where the Electoral College votes go, so you can have a play with it.

    I plugged in a stack of figures, too averages and came up with this:

    Basically it's pretty well much the same as 2008 except that I think that California will vote Republican in protest against their Democrat state government, and that with the impending apathy of the Latino vote in Florida, that that state will flip to red.

    Currently I predict a Romney 275 - Obama 263 win.
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    Obama is going to kick ass.

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    George Bush believes Romney will be a great President | Firstpost

    No surprise I don't like this guy (Romney)

    Go Obama!

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    Will teleprompt boy visit all 57 states again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry Walker
    Will teleprompt boy visit all 57 states again?
    Here is an example of why the political discourse in this country is as it is.

    Come on Garry . . . .
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    From the outside it does always seem to be voting on the character of the individual rather than policies.

    Unfortunately it's like that in the UK now too.
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    Ed Milliband has a character now?
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    I am and have been a registered Democrat since 1972. I've never voted a straight Democratic ticket (if you count abstentions). Having said that this going to be a much closer race than I thought 3 months ago, but Obama holds the trump card which cancels out any suggestion that this President of The United States of America is responsible for our massive Federal Debt. What card is that you ask? He's one of a small group of objective/sane Senators that voted against the invasion of Iraq which saw (through cronyism), companies like Blackwater and other military subcontractors get filthy rich emptying our tills while we eliminated Iraq's vast cache of weapons of mass destruction. Mitt is on record as supporting the "Slam Dunk", although he was vocal in the mismanagement of funds after the horse bolted
    My fellow Americans, it’s ok to love your country. It is however helpful that you obey the righteous laws of your country, and you actively participate in repealing the ones that are unjust.

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    Try to see the positive side of this: none of them can be worse than G W Bush.
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