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15th March 2012, 15:14 #1
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Mercedes "F-duct" 2012-style
So apparently Mercedes have an F-duct type mechanism that takes air from the rear wing and uses it to stall the front wing. It's activated by the DRS:
Mercedes: F-Duct Front Wing operated by the Rear Wing DRS | Scarbsf1's Blog
And Charlie's happy that it's legal... he acknowledges that it's activated by the activation of the DRS, but says "...it is completely passive. There are no moving parts in it; it doesn’t interact with any suspension. No steering, nothing. Therefore I cannot see a rule that prohibits it."
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Looks like some clever work by Ross Brawn's team. No doubt the other teams will have their rule book lawyers scrutinising it already, and I think you could make a decent argument against it based on rule 3.15. But it seems Mercedes will get to use it for a while at least, could be a useful advantage for them in qualifying.
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15th March 2012, 15:43 #2
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Originally Posted by AndyL
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15th March 2012, 16:55 #3
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Originally Posted by The Black Knight
With the exception of the parts necessary for the adjustment described in Article 3.18, any car system, device or procedure which uses, or is suspected of using, driver movement as a means of altering the aerodynamic characteristics of the car is prohibited.
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15th March 2012, 17:36 #4
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The driver also uses the accelerator. the brakes and the steering wheel, all these actions alter the car's configuration.
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15th March 2012, 18:01 #5
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Originally Posted by ioan
There's a spectrum of situations here. Steering and braking affect the aerodynamics of the car, in fact it's impossible to avoid. But at the other end of the spectrum, imagine an F-duct system that somehow worked off pressure generated by the drink bottle pump, so every time the driver took a drink the front wing was stalled - that seems most likely illegal. What Mercedes are doing is somewhere between those two. I'm sure teams will be making representations to the FIA about where in that spectrum they think this falls.
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15th March 2012, 19:34 #6
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I'm pretty sure that Mercedes' design is legal. Yes, DRS is a movable device, but it is meant to be so, and it is the only moving part of the car which has an influence on their F-duct system. I don't see how they could ban Mercedes' F-duct without banning DRS altogether.
I'm sure many people would like to see Merc's F-duct banned if it meant the end of DRS, though.
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15th March 2012, 21:32 #7
The Mercs already had superb top speed performance last year, I'm left wondering if this front F-duct is actually new for this year? If it is and no-one else has copied it yet they could be the team to beat in Oz.
Technicaly its a clever solution but Is it within 'the spirit of the rules' ? Thats the FIA's get-out clause for banning anything they dont like.The emergence of the new 'Rainmaster' - Mad Max at Interlagos 2016!
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I like this innovation by Mercedes, some very clever thinking on their part.
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Great engineering work on Mercedes and must have been tough to keep this quiet until arriving at Melbourne.
Funny to hear Red bull cry foul when the last 2 years everyone else wasn't happy with the EBD
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18th March 2012, 21:43 #10Originally Posted by f1bettingsThe emergence of the new 'Rainmaster' - Mad Max at Interlagos 2016!
Hyundai also has Sordo signed on, don't they?
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