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    https://moottori.fi/ajoneuvot/jutut/...ha-tallaiseen/

    Wilson interview (in Finnish) by the one and only Miika Wuorela. Wilson says that the rumors of Tänak owning now a share of M-Sport is not true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    https://moottori.fi/ajoneuvot/jutut/...ha-tallaiseen/

    Wilson interview (in Finnish) by the one and only Miika Wuorela. Wilson says that the rumors of Tänak owning now a share of M-Sport is not true.
    Go figure when Wuorela himself told me these rumours. Maybe I should downgrade his ratings to "unreliable source" hehe

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    Lately (1,5 year ago) he predicted that Rally1 cars will be slower than Rally2 in corners in Finland.
    Then a year ago before Christmas he predicted that Tanak is retiring.

    Hard to take him seriously, specially after that first one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    Lately (1,5 year ago) he predicted that Rally1 cars will be slower than Rally2 in corners in Finland.
    Then a year ago before Christmas he predicted that Tanak is retiring.

    Hard to take him seriously, specially after that first one.
    Well the problem with him is that he has been right as well in about 50/50 of the information he has been sharing to me. But I feel sometimes he is sharing and mixing his own biased thoughts with factual information.



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    Quote Originally Posted by er88 View Post
    It is great news, agreed.
    You do always like to portray things like it's little old Msport out on their own though.
    Ford and Red Bull are also involved in this "Tanak championship project". Sponsorship backing from Red Bull, and assistance with development work, planning & funds from Ford too. Ofcourse they don't have the financial might of Toyota or Hyundai, but Tanak wouldn't be at Msport if it wasn't for Ford and Red Bull working as a genuine joined up partnership with Msport.
    I'm afraid it comes from all the years when it pretty much WAS just M-Sport.

    Even in recent years, and the loss of trade due to Covid, they have been left struggling for budget for testing (even with Red Bull & Ford Performance on board).

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    Ott Tänak is providing M-Sport Ford with feedback it has never had before...

    https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/tanak...has-never-had/

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    So someone here raised the rumor that Tänak now holds some shares of M-sport. Wilson Debunked it but username "tfr" in estonian rally forum pointed out an interesting thing.
    Sorry if it has some mistakes, used google translate, too lazy early in the morning to start translating it myself.

    I dont if it means anything or is nothing, just an interesting info.

    maybe someone from UK can have a say if these changes show if idk comma error is done, or it has to be something bigger for it to be shown like that. Or maybe Tfr you are member here also.

    "Unfortunately, the extract from the UK business register only shows that M-Sport Ltd is 100% owned by "M-Sport Ltd Share Release Trust", which is something about which I don't think you can get more detailed information unfortunately. However, it is worth noting that the "Latest update" of the company's data is "16 Jan 2023 - shareholders", i.e. that on 16.01 some change was made in the list of shareholders."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyest View Post
    So someone here raised the rumor that Tänak now holds some shares of M-sport. Wilson Debunked it but username "tfr" in estonian rally forum pointed out an interesting thing.
    Sorry if it has some mistakes, used google translate, too lazy early in the morning to start translating it myself.

    I dont if it means anything or is nothing, just an interesting info.

    maybe someone from UK can have a say if these changes show if idk comma error is done, or it has to be something bigger for it to be shown like that. Or maybe Tfr you are member here also.

    "Unfortunately, the extract from the UK business register only shows that M-Sport Ltd is 100% owned by "M-Sport Ltd Share Release Trust", which is something about which I don't think you can get more detailed information unfortunately. However, it is worth noting that the "Latest update" of the company's data is "16 Jan 2023 - shareholders", i.e. that on 16.01 some change was made in the list of shareholders."
    Maybe I should upgrade M. Wuorela's status as "reliable" again?

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    Last edited by cali; 2nd February 2023 at 07:58.

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    Also, someone pointed out that Tänak doesn't have that kind of money. The answer is pretty simple - Oleg Gross does have money and a lot of (2022 profit for his main company was 15,1 mil alone) + M.Märtin + O.Tänak and you get your finances straight.

    EDIT: And I'm not saying it's 100% true but this finances thing should be now debunked
    Last edited by cali; 2nd February 2023 at 09:46. Reason: Clarification

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