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    Quote Originally Posted by seb_sh View Post
    That's not how corporate budgets work.
    That’s completely missing the point.
    If the world didn't suck, we'd all fall off!

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    Loeb a Red Bull driver, Mikkelsen a Red Bull driver.. share the third Puma? Or is Mikkelsen’s deal just a minor driver sponsorship with the Norwegian importer?

    Still expect Greensmith to be the third car!

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    I still expect Greensmith to be in a Puma in 2023 - although he / they did have a fair few faults with it last season and he may think the Yaris is more reliable...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    I still expect Greensmith to be in a Puma in 2023 - although he / they did have a fair few faults with it last season and he may think the Yaris is more reliable...
    From the rumors, question mark sounds more about the treatment for other drivers (test days, quality of the car, ...) compared with Tanak considering the «*All for Ott*» strategy clearly told by Millener and Wilson.
    And, liking or not Greensmith, it’s understandable, when you’re a client, that you have some concerns about it. So I think it’s understandable he is taking a look at what M-Sport and Toyota could offer him as guarantees; last 2 years, Toyota has clearly proved they can drive 4 cars; the concern may be more about the calendar and if they will do the job correctly for a client (Lappi 2021 stint was a bit particular as it was a test for 2022).

    Probably some news soon, I don’t think M-Sport is discarded but probably close call and discussing the details.
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    Formaux and Munster in WRC2 with M-Sport

    https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/fourm...-wrc2-program/

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    Not a big surprise considering the last rumors.
    Well, with Fourmaux, Munster and Virves, it gives an interesting line-up for Fiesta Rally2 for next year. But for sure, the main topic is to know if the forecasted updates of the car will be enough.
    Even though, it gives a good bunch of youngster with the Pajari-Bulacia-Gryazin-Lindholm-Solberg (and maybe Ingram) Toksport bunch, Rossel in Citroen and let’s see for Hyundai.

    Interested to know how much these drivers are backed:
    - For Virves, it’s FIA due to prize drive (and some backing probably to obtain the additional 2 rounds)
    - For Munster, it’s known Serderidis will back him by reducing his own program. However, I don’t totally understand his choice of M-Sport against Hyundai considering the qualities of the two cars. Some rumors in Belgian news that maybe a reward with 1 or 2 drives in Serderidis’ Rally1 (probably depending on the results in Rally2).
    - For Fourmaux, don’t know if Red Bull still back him; or maybe Yacco again?
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    I hope Munster has more luck at M-Sport as he always seemed to have a lot of misfortune in his previous cars.

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    Virves will be RedGrey? Linnamae too?

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    Autosport;

    "M-Sport team principal Richard Millener told Autosport that talks with Greensmith “to understand what we can do with him for the season” were set to be held last week.

    It appears those discussions have failed to result in a renewal of the Briton’s full-time deal with the Cumbrian organisation."

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    We gonna miss him so much
    MS-RT

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