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    [QUOTE=tbtstt;1195602]The same way he was before the new regulations and Ogier came along?

    no - the difference between then and now is that then, they were selling loads of WRC cars, but now they have sold just two or three (I think)...

    And regarding the glossy front... I can understand what you're thinking, but people aren't going to buy an R5 based on what the WRC car has achieved.

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    2017 WRC's are £750k... not surprising only two have been sold. And Østberg couldnt afford to run his with the cost of parts and upgrades.

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    [QUOTE=T16;1195607]
    Quote Originally Posted by tbtstt View Post
    The same way he was before the new regulations and Ogier came along?

    no - the difference between then and now is that then, they were selling loads of WRC cars, but now they have sold just two or three (I think)...

    And regarding the glossy front... I can understand what you're thinking, but people aren't going to buy an R5 based on what the WRC car has achieved.
    They never sold many new wrc cars. They did sell most of their works cars after some rally's.
    Which is actually quite a genious businesses model.

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    [QUOTE=denkimi;1195637]
    Quote Originally Posted by T16 View Post
    They never sold many new wrc cars. They did sell most of their works cars after some rally's.
    Which is actually quite a genious businesses model.
    Where did you get the 'new' bit from? Either way, old or new, they sold loads of them, as they did with the focus' and that meant parts and support contracts too. I'm not going to profess to have every bit of information, but surely if you are not selling the product you make and you are not selling any parts too, then it's a pretty bad business model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Sorry but if you look at the main R5 championships and especially in Europe, they are now dominated by the Skoda Fabia R5. The Fiesta may be numerous in total but the sales in the last couple of years have been low compared to the (newer) Skoda.

    There are also other newer R5's out now like the C3 R5 and Polo R5 and these will also hit Fiesta sales. The Mk8 Fiesta R5 isnt due til July 2019.
    Have to remember that M-Sport had 200-250 "old" bodyshells in store when Mk8 came. How many R2/R5 they have built since? They simply have nothing to sell until Mk8 models are ready.
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    I believe Mk8 R2T will be homologated to JWRC 2019, so... soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pantealex View Post
    Have to remember that M-Sport had 200-250 "old" bodyshells in store when Mk8 came. How many R2/R5 they have built since? They simply have nothing to sell until Mk8 models are ready.
    You still can build R5 (or R2) based on used road car, so still possibilities to build new ones.

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    Too much fuzz. A road car a) costs more (in terms of a r5 rallycar not so much ofc) b) has all the unnecessary eq. from sound proofing to paint and is...used c) is old in every way, costs a lot and there are newer cars, which are faster.

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