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    Waiting for Milleners comments how amazing the car still is and pointing out that others had also problems like Neuville with handbrake problem
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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    Waiting for Milleners comments how amazing the car still is and pointing out that others had also problems like Neuville with handbrake problem
    I think both Loubet and Tänak would rather have a handbrake problem than the issues they had

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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    Waiting for Milleners comments how amazing the car still is and pointing out that others had also problems like Neuville with handbrake problem
    Waing for FastEddie to comment on how msport are plucky underdogs and Ford dont support them enough, so all these issues are excusable . Reality is they have built a tinpot, brittle Puma and havent managed to sort reliability since the cars inception. How Malcolm can say this is the best car theyve built is beyond me. And why Millener isnt under more pressure is alarming......, hes overseeing this mess and there have been no improvements

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    I would’ve sacked Millener long time ago…
    Only you know your true potential.
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    I'm not shure its only the puma's fault, rally is a sport that take care of the cars and tires is a big part of the game, some drivers are better than others on that game.
    Everyone in M-sport knows that the car is a little weaker than the Toyota, than you can't go 110% all over.


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    Quote Originally Posted by skarderud View Post
    I'm not shure its only the puma's fault, rally is a sport that take care of the cars and tires is a big part of the game, some drivers are better than others on that game.
    Everyone in M-sport knows that the car is a little weaker than the Toyota, than you can't go 110% all over.


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    Tänak has said in many stage end interviews that he had not been able to go to the limit. What are you referring with 110% all over? Seems like Tänak has held himself back due to the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferrial View Post
    Tänak has said in many stage end interviews that he had not been able to go to the limit. What are you referring with 110% all over? Seems like Tänak has held himself back due to the car.
    If you push over the limits all the time, then you drive at 110% .

    To know where to not push is a part of the game.

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    But the car in Loebs hands did worked fine, and he liked it. So the potential is there.
    If they wonder if the level of the Puma is still there, invite him to a test or a rally

    So where are the top 2 areas Tanak feel the car needs to get improvements now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    But the car in Loebs hands did worked fine, and he liked it. So the potential is there.
    If they wonder if the level of the Puma is still there, invite him to a test or a rally

    So where are the top 2 areas Tanak feel the car needs to get improvements now?
    In fact it kept falling apart in Kenya and he had to retire in Greece due to the alternator belt. In Portugal he crashed early in the rally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by er88 View Post
    Waing for FastEddie to comment on how msport are plucky underdogs and Ford dont support them enough, so all these issues are excusable . Reality is they have built a tinpot, brittle Puma and havent managed to sort reliability since the cars inception. How Malcolm can say this is the best car theyve built is beyond me. And why Millener isnt under more pressure is alarming......, hes overseeing this mess and there have been no improvements
    Your perennial 'tin pot' jibe is pathetic. You cant even come up with a new insult. And the only time you show up is to have a dig after an M-Sport problem.

    M-Sport's situation compared to the financial might of Toyota and Hyundai is a matter of fact and needs no defence from me.

    I believe they are doing their best under the circumstances and none of us knows the true complications of building and running these Rally1 cars on a limited budget.
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