Thread: M-Sport Ford World Rally Teams
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21st January 2019, 18:58 #2681
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Look at it from the other side - M-Sport is late with the new R5 but it won two WRC titles! For sure the R5 market loss hurts but I'm quite sure that Malcolm Wilson and the rest of M-Sport guys would again go for the WRC title as a priority if they were about to decide again.
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21st January 2019, 19:01 #2682
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With so few numbers of the polo being produced maybe Wilson is playing a clever gameplan. As for customers and waiting lists teams will generally go for whats best unless they are brand affiliated. Also bear in mind the fabia evo 2 has also been postponed and not due to be released till mid summer. The Hyundai is still a very basic car and even with the jokers that are planned for this year I feel it will still lag behind the competition.
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21st January 2019, 19:15 #2683
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Except that it's not few at all. 40 cars/year is pretty high number. Škoda produces twice the amount but among the rest it's currently second highest production rate I believe.
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21st January 2019, 19:47 #2684
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21st January 2019, 19:49 #2685
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40 does sound like a good number but demand still out weighs production by a big margin. Just for the record, how many new cars did M-Sport and Skoda sell last year?
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21st January 2019, 19:51 #2686
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Going by EWRC chassis numbers, about 15-20 Fiestas: https://www.ewrc-results.com/carinfo...a-r5/?car=3173 - a lot of money in the upgrades and rebuilds of the first 200+ chassis though. I think that's more valuable business than the actual initial sales.
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21st January 2019, 20:13 #2687
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Not all cars are sold to the customers but the production capacity of Škoda is 80 cars a year and it has been steadily kept so for a couple of years. Based on their comments there are no plans to enlarge the production rate in the future.
I would be carefull to comment the demand. Yes, there is huge demand for Polo but not that much for the other cars. Most of those you can get pretty quickly after the order (including Fabia).Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump
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21st January 2019, 21:59 #2688
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That's what I was kind of figuring. M-Sport are a preparations/sales business so it is in their best interest to sell as many cars as possible while also rebuilding older stock. It doesn't seem like anyone else works with M-Sport built cars so its quids in there. Skoda follow pretty much the same format just not as aggressively. VW however don't need to make money from selling Polo R'5 so are not motivated to churn out large numbers. In my opinion it is more of a self sustaining brand awareness exercise and it looks to be doing the trick.
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21st January 2019, 22:36 #2689
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21st January 2019, 22:44 #2690
I suspect that if FIA continues down this route, then Hyundai won't need to develop a new car, because they won't be in the WRC> It really is a stupid strategy of the FIA to spend more money on...
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