M-Sport Ford World Rally Teams

[Zeakiwi]

Did the ford cars meet the new euro emission regulations introduced last year?

https://www.mlive.com/news/2019/01/f...e-in-2019.html (Euro layoffs)

Ford also closing Focus line in Argentina.

Ford will have to set up a plant with only robots somewhere.

[Andre Oliveira]

Fiesta R2T National with 155hp and R1 with 140hp to come.

https://translate.googleusercontent....pERAKUwzyM0ZYQ

[Got Mail]

There seems to be a pretty big assumption being made that manufacturing and selling R5 cars is a profitable business.

I'm not sure the original sale will generate much profit given the price cap.

Parts sales will be a different matter.

[N.O.T]

Parts sales will be a different matter.

why ? they pay parts with babanas and they only use money on the car itself ?

its like those nesspresso machines and the retards that buy them they pay for the machine but then they milk them with those capsules...

[Mirek]

There seems to be a pretty big assumption being made that manufacturing and selling R5 cars is a profitable business.

I'm not sure the original sale will generate much profit given the price cap.

Parts sales will be a different matter.

Yes, I don't think they do any reasonable profit (if any) of the car sale alone. What makes the profit is the spare parts and the after sale services. It is indeed a profitable business. At least for some.

[RS]

Jouhki is paying for Suninen right?

[ToughMac]

This might sound like a crazy question but does anyone know the specs of the upcoming Fiesta R5? Apart from the R5 regs is it going to be a three cylinder or a four cylinder? As far as I know the top spec Fiesta ST is a 1.5 three cylinder engine. If this is what M-Sport are planning on using it's pretty understandable why they are delaying the launch for so long.

[Tarmop]

Most probably they won`t use its engine and will make 1.6l out of something with bigger capacity...seems to be the most reliable solution as demonstrated by VAG and M-Sport already.

[ToughMac]

Who will dictate it though in this case, Ford or M-Sport? The convenient option is to go with the four cylinder engine in that it is proven but with the emphasis on lower emissions etc it might be Ford's preference to push this engine configuration.

[Tarmop]

Umm, lol, yes, for sure there are concernes over emissions from a car consuming 50-70l/100 km SS racing fuel and a set of tires that lasts around 100km. Not to mention how it all changes with different mappings etc. If Ford wants to sell it as ecofriendly, they do what they do now, add a "Powered by Ecoboost" sticker. You never ever make a R5 car that complies with latest emissions regulations and frankly it is the last thing in the list of arguments, how someone chooses a (R5) rallycar, whats point all in all is to be a customer car. It has to be fast and reliable, good/cheap to maintain for the customer and its builder.

Or put it this way: You have a 1.8l R4 std. engine, you make it 1.6l, around 210 kW and 400 nm or you have a 1.5 R3, you increase its capacity to make it 1.6, around 210 kW and 400 nm. Which option has a bigger lifespan, is cheaper and more reliable to build and maintain? The answer is quite obvious.