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    WRC1 seems more of a vanity project now for M-Sport. They cant compete with the two factory teams without Ford as a full manufacturer team, or afford a top driver in this economic climate.

    They could concentrate on WRC2/3 and promote thelr Fiesta Rally2 that way with no detriment.

    Credit them for at least giving us a 3rd WRC car to watch but dont expect them to win much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    This is actuall a real problem imo, in F1 there is money for each manu point earned. Surely the promoter sells TV "product" to TV providers, sells Allive etc. I get that it's likely not huge sums but how is that in any way channeled back to teams/drivers?
    In F1 the prize money is so much for the top teams that together with other sponsorship revenues and the promotion for the brand it's almost a no-brainer for them to compete there.

    But I doubt there is much excess in WRC once the costs of running the circus, especially All-Live are taken into account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS View Post
    2) Skoda are not in the top class but sell lots of Rally2 cars
    They have also won many WRC2 titles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS View Post
    In F1 the prize money is so much for the top teams that together with other sponsorship revenues and the promotion for the brand it's almost a no-brainer for them to compete there.

    But I doubt there is much excess in WRC once the costs of running the circus, especially All-Live are taken into account.
    Yet still many teams are really struggling financially in F1

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Why M-Sport wants to stay in WRC:

    - Maybe the 2022 cars will be more privateer-friendly?
    With prices down from a rumoured €800,000 to €500,000, but with likely high running costs and poorer reliability. I dont expect many takers.

    And sadly Extreme-E is already pulling in the rich kids with its futuristic, trendy, 'off-road racing'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cali View Post
    Yet still many teams are really struggling financially in F1

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    Yes, as I said 'top teams'

    But all teams get tens of millions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    They have also won many WRC2 titles.
    That is true but it's not related to the discussion which was about why M-Sport compete in the 'Rally 1' class or whatever it's called.

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    They already have the WRC cars, and have invested in upgrades, so they might as well run them for their final eligible season in 2021.

    And with the driver deals they shouldnt make a loss, even if it doesnt actually make a profit or get any great results.

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    There will be at least three Fiesta WRC's at Arctic Rally Finland. Could be even four if Tuohino manages to rent his car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abcrally View Post
    There will be at least three Fiesta WRC's at Arctic Rally Finland. Could be even four if Tuohino manages to rent his car.
    Where you got this info? Suninen wasn´t sure in Monte when spoke to Finnish media?

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