Finnish rallying championship news

[Co-FIN]

Found this from facebook

"Thousand lakes rally Finland 1985, golden age of groub B, Notes, 4wd, Peugeot, Lancia etc..

SS 43 Sarvana. Lenght 6.49km.

1. H.Toivonen 4.04
2. TSalonen 4.07
3. S.Blomqvist 4.09
4. K.Grundel 4.10
5. P.Eklund 4.11
6. M.Alen 4.15

Year 2012 Autoglym rally F-Cup. Blind rally so no notes, 2wd, No turbo. Golf, Corolla, Volvo..

SS 5 Sarvana Lenght 6.50km
According to spectator quide the stage is exactly the same as 1985 in Thousand lakes rally.

1. Timo Jaakonsaari 4:02,7
2. Jere Rekola 4:05,1
3. Jari Huuhka 4:05,2
4. Toni Kuhanen 4:07,0
5. Kimmo Nevanpää 4:07,1

[NICK2255]

I've filmed these extremely loud sounding Porsches 911 964 SC Rally Special during the 2012 Rally Ronde Gomitolo di Lana!

Porsche 911 SC Rally Special INSANE SOUND! - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n6HB0AgS3U

[Coach 2]

Found this from facebook

"Thousand lakes rally Finland 1985, golden age of groub B, Notes, 4wd, Peugeot, Lancia etc..

SS 43 Sarvana. Lenght 6.49km.

1. H.Toivonen 4.04
2. TSalonen 4.07
3. S.Blomqvist 4.09
4. K.Grundel 4.10
5. P.Eklund 4.11
6. M.Alen 4.15

Year 2012 Autoglym rally F-Cup. Blind rally so no notes, 2wd, No turbo. Golf, Corolla, Volvo..

SS 5 Sarvana Lenght 6.50km
According to spectator quide the stage is exactly the same as 1985 in Thousand lakes rally.

1. Timo Jaakonsaari 4:02,7
2. Jere Rekola 4:05,1
3. Jari Huuhka 4:05,2
4. Toni Kuhanen 4:07,0
5. Kimmo Nevanpää 4:07,1

But wasn't the Lancia's of Toivonen and Alen 2WD (Lancia Rally 037).

[Hartusvuori]

But wasn't the Lancia's of Toivonen and Alen 2WD (Lancia Rally 037).

Of course. But so are F-Cup cars too. Of course there are many factors in this, but it makes a nice myth. :-)

[OldF]

The technical regulations in F-Cup is quite free and if they’re using more advanced components compared to the 1985 ones (example dampers) so maybe the handling of even an elder car makes them faster.

TimoJaakonsaari VW 19 Golf GTi 16V
Jere Rekola M-B 2.3 16V
Jari Huuhka BMW M3
Toni Kuhanen Toyota Corolla 1600 GT
Kimmo Nevanpää BMW 325i

[Juha_Koo]

Not to talk how much the road can change in those years - a lot...

[stefanvv]

Not to talk how much the road can change in those years - a lot...

Speaking of road conditions, are you sure it wasn't raining heavily back in 85?

[Hartusvuori]

Speaking of road conditions, are you sure it wasn't raining heavily back in 85?

There's been talk on the subject in Finnish forums and the heritage says the road was wet in 1985 (at least morning dew, but it was raining last Saturday) and the stage started at 6.15 AM in late August so some of the dusk have been left. It was also one of the last stages, fight for victory was over and also at that point in the rally the drivers have driven more or less 36 hours straight without much of a sleep. Still, it was 1985, heyday of group B, teams doing recce on the stages ad nauseum, Toivonen, Alen, Blomqvist, Salonen, etc. Like it've been pointed, suspension, tyres, etc. have developed a lot. Also the road must've changed - that I could later check from a relative living by that stage.

But like said, makes a nice myth - and also means that the top drivers, not just the few of them, in F-Cup drive very fast and respectfully.

[Hartusvuori]

Last event of Finnish rallying championship is under way in Kerava at the moment. Top drivers are already through SS5, and of course, Esapekka Lappi is leading. It's interesting however that at the same time his early season opponents are driving elsewhere, Juha Salo with Proton in APRC Japan and Mikko Pajunen with Ford in IRC Yalta. Thus young Jussi Tiippana is currently second in close battle with Joni Nikko in third.

In 2WD after SS4 Ville Hautamäki and Jaro Kinnunen are fighting for the win. Joonas Lindroos switched backed to C2 for this rally and he is leading the SM3 class, but having a close battle with Andreas Amberg.

Historic rally driver Jari Ketomaa retired on SS2 as technical problems hit his VW Golf GTi.

Last stage starts 16.59 Finnish time. Results here: Tulossivu

[veegog]

How is Kristian Sohlberg doing ?