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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    Thanks for the translation. Nice interview, but the crucial doubt remains: if Tanak/Martin weren’t asking to have 1st driver status, to get more money, to assume the R5 program or to replace Makinen as TGR manager, what on earth were they asking?
    for me the question is what the hell was Tommi waiting for? Like Marrko says they were ready to make the deal in august/september but Tommi didnt.

    This even further backs up my idea in the citroen thread (Ogier wanting to go to Toyota) that i think Tommi was waiting for Ogiers answer or he thought that Ott has nowhere else to go and he thought that Ott and Marrko lower their demands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    Thanks for the translation. Nice interview, but the crucial doubt remains: if Tanak/Martin weren’t asking to have 1st driver status, to get more money, to assume the R5 program or to replace Makinen as TGR manager, what on earth were they asking?
    I understood, that all they were asking was on table for signing, but Tommi didn't do that fast enough or didn't show motivation to do that.

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    If it was all just "stupid lies" then any sensible person wouldn't bother to comment, let alone put more fuel to the flames.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    This even further backs up my idea in the citroen thread (Ogier wanting to go to Toyota) that i think Tommi was waiting for Ogiers answer or he thought that Ott has nowhere else to go and he thought that Ott and Marrko lower their demands.
    Honestly, that’s hard to believe. In the interview it’s said that Martin and Tanak started to look (and talk?) to Hyundai on an early stage; they probably knew that their demands (whatever they were) couldn’t be satisfied by Makinen. If so, it’s not hard to imagine that Makinen would also look for a B plan (Ogier).
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    Well, getting Ogier with RB Money to his TMR+ probably Tänaks also with "where is he gone go" made him think that he had the best lineup+ two students next season.

    Ofc there might have been talks about the length of the contract, with backing out possibilities.

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    That RedBull thing doesnt fit to Toyota camp. There is some Japan bosses who are against that already from Lappi time on there....

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    I can`t remember any connections between RB and Lappi before Citroen...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarmop View Post
    I can`t remember any connections between RB and Lappi before Citroen...
    Well same here , 2017 there was no Red Bull logos seen anywhere on the car or Lappis overalls. Probably got the sponsor as a package from Citroen ( to make car liveries same). But all that is just my thoughts about the matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by able1 View Post
    Well same here , 2017 there was no Red Bull logos seen anywhere on the car or Lappis overalls. Probably got the sponsor as a package from Citroen ( to make car liveries same). But all that is just my thoughts about the matter.
    IDK in Redbull athletes his name not in there(maybe he isnt). But point is that RB logo is no way visibe in Toyota car. Thats for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reff92 View Post
    IDK in Redbull athletes his name not in there(maybe he isnt). But point is that RB logo is no way visibe in Toyota car. Thats for sure.
    Lappi's never been a Red Bull athlete.

    Ofcourse at this time we don't know how the Yaris will look like 2020 (so far TGR has run zero RB athletes in WRC), but it wouldn't be the first time Gazoo Racing cars have RB livery.

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