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    Quote Originally Posted by rallyfiend View Post
    To think that this programme going to the team owned by Marko and Ott is a pure coincidence or not linked to his movement to Hyundai is to exercise such unbelievable naivety as to be bordering on the ridiculous....
    Exactly, puzzled by the amount of naivety here

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    I don't mind that they had some synergy with the main driver and R5 program, I just don't like the bullshit talk in the Märtin interview.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    I don't mind that they had some synergy with the main driver and R5 program, I just don't like the bullshit talk in the Märtin interview.
    Exactly my thoughts, why you deny when in January everything will be made public anyways. I'm glad that they got this chance but I really do not like how this whole process was handled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cali View Post
    Whatever it was Märtin denied it all and dismissed any rumours about R5 programme...and today we know it wasn't so. I call this BS however you look at it even if I put my blue-black-white glasses on.

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    Why should he confirm during time of negotiations. Not BS in my point of view. Only secrets not ready to be official.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper View Post
    Why should he confirm during time of negotiations. Not BS in my point of view. Only secrets not ready to be official.
    I guess you did not read the interview Per

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    Quote Originally Posted by cali View Post
    I guess you did not read the interview Per

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    That´s true. But from the discussion here I made some conclusions.

    In Sweden we have politicians saying No, meaning Yes. In the MM case I just commented why he maybe talked "bs".

    If you like, you can give me more info that I missed.
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    Consequently, neither Märtin nor Ott had the right to make this R5 news public. Hyundai has decided to disclose it now and that's it.
    In the same way, a driver cannot talk about his new contract until the team decides to make it public. It has already become commonplace in the WRC world that nobody talks before the time is right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maailmameister View Post
    Consequently, neither Märtin nor Ott had the right to make this R5 news public. Hyundai has decided to disclose it now and that's it.
    In the same way, a driver cannot talk about his new contract until the team decides to make it public. It has already become commonplace in the WRC world that nobody talks before the time is right.
    The interview was about Toyota and I get the Hyundai part. Did you see how Märtin ridiculed the whole R5 idea?

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    it seems like you were about to get the R5 programme and now it's gone

    there is difference between Hyundai and Toyota R5 programs.. One team has already got a good car ready to race, other team's car is only being mentioned in the interviews..

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    Quote Originally Posted by TypeR View Post
    it seems like you were about to get the R5 programme and now it's gone

    there is difference between Hyundai and Toyota R5 programs.. One team has already got a good car ready to race, other team's car is only being mentioned in the interviews..
    I suggest you to remove your nationalistic glasses and step into real world. The question was did the demand to develop Toyota's R5 got in the way of Ott's contract renewal. The answer - he laughed off such idea.
    I just don't tolerate bs and i do not lower my criterias even if it comes from a fellow estonians...


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