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    What is difference between tires for rally1 and rally2?

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    Mikkelsen supposedly should have had a test in CZ this weekend that got cancelled.

    Possibly first test of some test mule for the new Fabia or too early?

    Basing this on these points:
    - testing in CZ where you can only really test tarmac well and there is no tarmac rally soon
    - Skoda Motorsport is based in CZ and any first tests of the new car will surely happen there
    - test got cancelled seemingly just a few days before, could be million reasons but when building a new car it's more likely issues happen
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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    Mikkelsen supposedly should have had a test in CZ this weekend that got cancelled.

    Possibly first test of some test mule for the new Fabia or too early?

    Basing this on these points:
    - testing in CZ where you can only really test tarmac well and there is no tarmac rally soon
    - Skoda Motorsport is based in CZ and any first tests of the new car will surely happen there
    - test got cancelled seemingly just a few days before, could be million reasons but when building a new car it's more likely issues happen
    A few days ago der Ohanessian (Bulacia's co-driver) said that they would be going to CZ to test with Skoda. And they would also be working a couple of days with the car in the workshop thinking about Safari Rally.

    Since then, it was announced their withdraw from Safari and no news about the test.

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    They do tests for gravel and even snow in Czechia too, just not many.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Co-driven View Post
    A few days ago der Ohanessian (Bulacia's co-driver) said that they would be going to CZ to test with Skoda. And they would also be working a couple of days with the car in the workshop thinking about Safari Rally.

    Since then, it was announced their withdraw from Safari and no news about the test.
    Sounds a bit more like the test was supposed to be with the current car then.

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    If you take a quick guesstimate on the following:
    How much quicker has a R5/Rally2 car become pr km ss, from the class came and till today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    If you take a quick guesstimate on the following:
    How much quicker has a R5/Rally2 car become pr km ss, from the class came and till today?
    That is very difficult to say without doing a head-to-head test with one early and one current car, both on the same tyres, same track and in the same conditions and even when you do such test the result will apply only for that one particular track...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    That is very difficult to say without doing a head-to-head test with one early and one current car, both on the same tyres, same track and in the same conditions and even when you do such test the result will apply only for that one particular track...
    The reason I am asking is to compare with what we can expect from the Rally3 class in the coming years.

    So, if you should guess Mirek. Gain pr km SS.
    a) 0-1 sec
    b) 1-2 sec
    c) 2-3 sec
    d) 3-4 sec
    e) More than 4 sec pr km ss?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    The reason I am asking is to compare with what we can expect from the Rally3 class in the coming years.

    So, if you should guess Mirek. Gain pr km SS.
    a) 0-1 sec
    b) 1-2 sec
    c) 2-3 sec
    d) 3-4 sec
    e) More than 4 sec pr km ss?
    I can't say that because comparing results from 2013 and 2021 even on unchanged stages makes no sense because you can't tell how much progress is about tyres and how much about the car. Moreover I really don't remember what weather was on which stage 8 years ago.
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    Difficult to find matching stages

    Fafe Portugal

    2021 Lappi Polo 97.7 km/h
    2015 Lappi Fabia 95.1 km/h

    Gandesa Catalunya

    2019 Loubet Fabia evo 96.0 km/h
    2015 Chardonnet DS3 90.3 km/h

    Leustu Finland

    2019 Rovanperä Fabia evo 111.0 km/h (stage was 500 m longer, possibly making the stage a bit slower with one junction turn)
    2014 Tänak Fiesta 109.1 km/h

    Riudecanyes Catalunya

    2019 Solans Polo 92.9 km/h (damp conditions?)
    2014 Chardonnet DS3 94.1 km/h

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