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    Felipe, destroy Hamilton's race

    Apparently, the Singapore video review in Formula1.com includes an actual quote from Rob Smedley telling Massa "Hold Hamilton as much as we can. Destroy his race as much as we can. Come on, boy...".

    I believe this is unimportant - obviously Ferrari would like Massa to hold Hamilton up as much as he could, as both Ferrari drivers would have benefitted from that. However, the Autosport headline is "Radio broadcast revelation stokes Massa and Hamilton collision controversy". I think that this is unrelated - the collision was clearly Hamilton's fault, and Massa had all the right to be upset after the race, although shoving Lewis was clearly out of line. Even so, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that someone thinks differently.

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    Only Massa, when asked to destroy someone elses race, could manage to ruin his own as a result of driving slow through the apexes and getting a puncture as a result.....
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    Joe Saward has an interesting article about this quote, albeit its name isn't quite imaginative: What a load of rubbish

    It also contains his opinion on Hamilton's driving, which I find rather interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N4D13
    Apparently, the Singapore video review in Formula1.com includes an actual quote from Rob Smedley telling Massa "Hold Hamilton as much as we can. Destroy his race as much as we can. Come on, boy...".

    I believe this is unimportant - obviously Ferrari would like Massa to hold Hamilton up as much as he could, as both Ferrari drivers would have benefitted from that. However, the Autosport headline is "Radio broadcast revelation stokes Massa and Hamilton collision controversy". I think that this is unrelated - the collision was clearly Hamilton's fault, and Massa had all the right to be upset after the race, although shoving Lewis was clearly out of line. Even so, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that someone thinks differently.
    So that's how you see it?
    lemme guess if the roles where reversed you would have a completely different take. Probably asking for the engineer to be sanctioned and hamilton to be banned


    There is a good reason they put that radio broadcast on the video. It sheds new light on the incident.
    But for those with a closed mind...alas, even with damning new evidence, it changes nothing.
    Hamilton hatred is too hard to let go off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SGWilko
    Only Massa, when asked to destroy someone elses race, could manage to ruin his own as a result of driving slow through the apexes and getting a puncture as a result.....
    yup

    There is a radio engineer telling his driver to purposely hold another driver up, that driver doing so, then purposly pitting him when Hamilton pits then being extremely slow on the outlap and when Hamilto tries to pass, Felipe makes for darn sure that he slams the door closed. Then acts with bewilderment afterwards at the incident. Felipe tried to destroy Hamilton;s race and nearly succeeded. Even though Hamilton came in for repairs and then again for his drive trhu. Massa was at that point well ahead of him, but Hamilton managed to catch up and pass him. So Massa destroyed his own race.
    you can't argue with results.

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    One final thing

    What is the point of destroying Hamilton's race from Ferrari and massa's perspective?

    Is he in a fight for the WDC against Alonso and Massa is there too help?
    The only reason is vindictiveness or a clear acknowledgment that Hamilton and mclaren are miles faster, and if you can't beat them, destroy them
    you can't argue with results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truefan72
    One final thing

    What is the point of destroying Hamilton's race from Ferrari and massa's perspective?

    Is he in a fight for the WDC against Alonso and Massa is there too help?
    I think you got that right. Not a difficult guess.
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    amazing the lack of interest or responses to this story from this board.

    It would have been 10 pages long by now if the story were reversed, with folks on hear screaming and ranting about Hamilton. Many stating it isn't about him just the facts
    I remember when he had his situation in Australia 09 with the team radio and we got plenty of pages about that and some calling for race bans etc.

    The silence here is telling and simply justifies why I post less on this board. Its quite obvious how many are less interested in facts and fairness and more about going on a witch hunt.

    oh well
    you can't argue with results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truefan72
    So that's how you see it?
    That's how just about everyone sees it.
    lemme guess if the roles where reversed you would have a completely different take. Probably asking for the engineer to be sanctioned and hamilton to be banned
    His driving is doing all the talking for him so far!

    There is a good reason they put that radio broadcast on the video. It sheds new light on the incident.
    Really? I see nothing different about his hasty attempt to get by.
    But for those with a closed mind...alas, even with damning new evidence, it changes nothing.
    Damning new evidence? Lmao.
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    Quote Originally Posted by truefan72
    amazing the lack of interest or responses to this story from this board.

    It would have been 10 pages long by now if the story were reversed, with folks on hear screaming and ranting about Hamilton. Many stating it isn't about him just the facts
    I remember when he had his situation in Australia 09 with the team radio and we got plenty of pages about that and some calling for race bans etc.

    The silence here is telling and simply justifies why I post less on this board. Its quite obvious how many are less interested in facts and fairness and more about going on a witch hunt.

    oh well
    there aren't that many truefanboys here as you would think, right?

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