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4th July 2013, 23:31 #71
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Originally Posted by D-TypePopular memory is not history.... -- Gordon Wood
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5th July 2013, 17:23 #72
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I know so little about rally drivers, so my opinion is clearly limited. So, in no particular order:
Fangio
Clark
Mario Andretti
Foyt
Schumacher
Senna
Prost
Stewart
Vukovich
Tie for 10th: Alonso, Vettel, Al Unser, Bobby Unser, Alberto Ascari
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6th July 2013, 00:25 #73
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I think it's fool's errand to fairly compare people like Fangio(even up to Clark) with people in the more modern era of F1. Back then it was more about having giant balls and being at peace with your possible death in any given race. Today it's more about how close to the "edge" you can push your car. The edge merely being the point where you lose control -- with a relatively minor chance of a serious injury.
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6th July 2013, 11:09 #74
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Originally Posted by keysersoze
It's nice to see you posting on the History forum.
Did you read the posts above yours and Post #2, which says:
Originally Posted by D-TypeDuncan Rollo
The more you learn, the more you realise how little you know.
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2nd August 2013, 15:26 #75
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Putting aside the number of victories & other merits, and concentrating on sheer driving skill, some names from 1950s-70s come to mind. I don't know other eras that well. I would consider the best judges to be F1 drivers themselves, and top motor writers like Denis Jenkinson.
1. Alberto Ascari
2. Juan Manuel Fangio
3. Stirling Moss
There seems to have been quite a contemporary agreement on the virtuosity of these three.
4. Jim Clark
5. Dan Gurney. Jim Clark mentioned that Gurney is his most talented rival.
6. Jackie Stewart, from 1968 onwards: the '68 Nürburgring victory sounds pretty formidable.
7. Emerson Fittipaldi. Everyone seems to agree that he was a great driver, and would have won much more without Copersucar.
Of the more recent decades, I am convinced that at least Gilles Villeneuve and Michael Schumacher would have been greats in any era.
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2nd August 2013, 15:33 #76
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My top 10:
1 Gilles Villeneuve
2 Hunt
3 Senna
4 Raikonnen
5 Vettel
6 Hamilton
7 Piquet sr
8 Schumacher (Benetton time)
9 J.P. Montoya
10 Verstappen
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2nd August 2013, 16:16 #77Originally Posted by lars75Kris Meeke got fired -PSG so terrified they quit!
Meeke had a big gap to Rossel after stage 3 (20 sec) at stage 4 had a puncture and now the gap to Rossel is just 2 sec Gryazin strangely slow,anybody now why?...
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