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Thread: Mallya vs Chandhok
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18th July 2011, 09:08 #11
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Originally Posted by aki13
Both Karun and Narain need to stay for some longer period to be top drivers, but if they had chances to drive better team or car than they have driven at we may see them with some progress.
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18th July 2011, 10:57 #12
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This shouldnt be about nationalities. I say, when india produces a driver thats faster than di resta and sutil, then get rid of one of them in favour for the indian driver. Until then, they'd do well to keep the current line up.
Ha'wey Hamilton, bring the WDC crown home and the beers are on me :up:
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18th July 2011, 15:31 #13
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Actually it's somewhat of a miracle that KC and NK made it to F1. I am an Indian, and was in the national racing scene for a couple of years. IMPOSSIBLE to get to even Formula BMW without huge financial backing. Besides all that we have in India for young talent was the Indian national karting championship, in which I took part, which is now discontinued. It had four stroke Honda karts, which you couldn't set up to your liking. The entry fee was nominal, but that meant that the kart you'd get for the race was a lottery. That was the only legit low cost championship, which MIGHT have fetched real talent, but it got scrapped when the motorsports association of India was merged into another association backed by Mallya and Karun's father, the president of Federation of Motorsport Clubs of India, Vicky Chandhok.
Then there's the Rotax Max Karting Championship, where I did around 5-10 races, paying around $300+ per race. After that there are the single seater championships like Formula Rolon, Formula Swift, Formula Maruti etc. I did probably a total of 2 races in Formula Rolon, paying $1000 each. I paid as long as I could for my passion, but sadly if you wanna go further than that, you gotta be a millionaire or have a millionaire dad. Enter, dads of Karthikeyan and Chandhok, both freakin wealthy, Narain's father an industrialist, and Chandhok's father being an important figure in Indian motorsports.
Even if you are good at what you do, you still need a truckload of money to make it anywhere in motorsport in India, because generally Indian sponsors aren't interested in motorsports. Everyone's focus is only cricket. The problem with Chandhok and Narain, and almost all Indian drivers was not only lack of motorsports in India, but also very less experience in European formulaes, which is crucial in getting experience, understanding aerodynamics, car setups etc. Up until Formula Rolon, we only had wingless single seater cars, after which if the drivers graduated to let's say Formula BMW, they would have NO idea about aerodynamics whatsoever. It's only and ONLY money that got Force India and two Indian drivers to F1, because experience wise we just can't compete with European or American drivers. Hard to find a combination of raw talent and being filthy rich.
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18th July 2011, 20:16 #14
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Originally Posted by Dylan H“Leave me alone!”
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18th July 2011, 23:00 #15
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Mallya and Chandhok are both are the same, both full of it. Only difference is one is rich and successful in their career, the other, isn't.
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18th July 2011, 23:46 #16
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Karun is a smart guy and a good driver, so he should probably ignore Mallya and get on with his own career, which could be at Lotus if Trulli doesn't get his act together like he managed to do last season.
Narain was unlucky, he was brought in to Hispania in a poor situation, and he got their best finish this year I believe at Canada, beating Lotus AND Virgin.
By all means search for Indian talent, but don't run down the guys who've paved the way.
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19th July 2011, 01:05 #17
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Originally Posted by Jake Stephens
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19th July 2011, 05:01 #18Originally Posted by woody2goody
He has done absolutely nothing, to deserve to be in F1.
Please show me otherwise, I am dying to know why you think he is any good.
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19th July 2011, 11:16 #19
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Originally Posted by DexDexter
How about Mallya being genuine about making his team an Indian Force? Chandok came with JayPee funding, NK with Tata money. How about pitching to Indian industry and creating a team that is overtly Indian full of brands that want to pitch their products overseas. There are plenty of Indian high tech IT and financial firms, aren't these the industries that F1 is supposed to appeal to most? Wipro, ICICI, Bharat oil, these are three big companies that I can think of off the top of my head.
A team named after India, owned and run by an Indian with an Indian driver backed by Indian industry with the first Indian GP later this year. Spot the obvious marketing synergy?
With such strong funding FI would have done better than by hiring two strong drivers as it has now but with only one genuine sponsor.
But no, Mallya hasn't courted Indian companies and Indian companies have preferred to do business with other teams.
Its not about the money or skill...
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19th July 2011, 11:25 #20
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Originally Posted by Koz
As for Narain, he has won 2 A1GP races for team India. While the careers of Liuzzi, Buemi and Sutil have been winless in A1GP, yet they are in F1. Agreed that all this is not such a big deal, but drivers who have achieved much lesser in their careers have ridden into F1 on pure sponsorship money, so what's wrong with these two then? It's not like ALL 22 drivers are the next Sennas. Narain and Karun have always only driven for the bottom-of-the-grid teams in really crap cars, and in today's F1, car performance equates to success, as simple as that.
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