Mark, you are to remain the gap

[vhatever]

What a sad sorry joke the red bull/vettel haters are. You complete ignore reality. He was asked if he would have done what ferrari did if he was in stefano's place. And he said "no, we let or drivers race". what is he supposed to say? yes, even though that's cheating currently? He's not going to say he's going to cheat in F1. What a bunch of hater nonsense.

He also went on to say that Massa deserved to win that day because: 1. he still in the championship picture, and 2. Massa was just the better driver that day. Can we say the same for webber on either instance? Vettel blew him away at the start and only had his race compromised by a pit screw up and his KERs going haywire. And BTw, looks like horner was dead right to give the order. Webber couldn't get past Vettel so it was an unneeded risk for the team.

[vhatever]

So you are calling Webber a liar, then? Why would he lie about something like that? He virtually guarantees no top team is going to want to touch him with a ten foot pole now.

[Hawkmoon]

What a sad sorry joke the red bull/vettel haters are. You complete ignore reality. He was asked if he would have done what ferrari did if he was in stefano's place. And he said "no, we let or drivers race". what is he supposed to say? yes, even though that's cheating currently? He's not going to say he's going to cheat in F1. What a bunch of hater nonsense.

He also went on to say that Massa deserved to win that day because: 1. he still in the championship picture, and 2. Massa was just the better driver that day. Can we say the same for webber on either instance? Vettel blew him away at the start and only had his race compromised by a pit screw up and his KERs going haywire. And BTw, looks like horner was dead right to give the order. Webber couldn't get past Vettel so it was an unneeded risk for the team.

I think we can. Webber is as much in the title fight as Massa was last year. Webber was also faster than Vettel in the closing stages of the race and had every right to challenge Vettel. Until, of course, Red Bull ordered him not to.

Criticising someone doesn't make you a "hater".

[PSfan]

I love that the Maccas are allowed to race.

giggle... snicker... HAHAHAHAHA... cough cough cough... Maccas are allowed to fffmmfmmm BWAHAHAHAHAHA race... hehehe

I suppose Turkey 2010... Button getting the repeated message about slowing down to conserve fuel, guess you probably took it face at value, and not the hidden team order to not race your team mate during the closing stages of a race like the majority of people watching...

[PSfan]

After Webber getting so close this race I fully expect his kers to not be functioning next race. Pitty.

The real pitty is that after Silverstone, Red Bull racing doesn't have the balls to sit Webber out a couple races for his childish outburst. And you pretending teams never tell their drivers towards the end of a race to hold position. I would almost bet that Webber was forced to sit back behind Heidfeld on a few occasions over at Williams, he should already know how this game is played, he's been in F1 long enough!!! If by some miracle Webber is ahead of Vettel in the future, and in say the final 5 laps or so of the race, Vettel attempts to overtake him with nothing else to gain then a single position, then you might have a point. Until then, you are just making yourself look as mature as Webber is... and that's not a compliment...

[markabilly]

everyone here is confused. Horner was worried that Mark Dubwa was losing pace to Vettel, so they wanted him to try to stay up with Seb....so they told him to keeep the gap

[markabilly]

ain't there are another thread on red bull telling mark to stay up with vettel???????

[mstillhere]

Ioan, how come Red Bull are right to do what's in the team's best interest today but last year Ferrari weren't? It wouldn't be because this year you like the driver who benefitted where as last year it was the reverse?

See, last year my impression was that what got everybody angry was how immoral, how unfair it was to have team orders. It was for many more of a moral issue than anything else. How Ferrari was shallow and how wrong they were to have a second driver, and blah, blah, blah. Last year I posted saying that Ferrari AND everybody else did it. The only difference was that Ferrari got caught and the other teams did not although it's now famous what Webber said last year:"Not bad for a 2nd driver". Now, finally the truth has come out. RB had and has team orders and so does McLaren with Button as driver number 2. No question about it.
All the RB talk that all drivers are the same that they are free to race each other it's just a bunch of c.......p. If it had been Ferrari asking Massa to do the same thing today right now everyone would be up in arms despite the legality of the action. It's not about the legality or not of the action. It's all about if it's Ferrari that does it or not.

[mstillhere]

Well guys.... we can put all the conspiracy theories behind us now. Webber is to play second fiddle to Vettel. Period. Always.

I wonder how fast Webber could be if they let him race? That question can NEVER be answered definitively. Had enough. Absolute joke of a team are RBR.

Well now we have the answer to the question: why Webber's car is always slower than Vette'ls.

[Valve Bounce]

I also saw flashes of Turkey :

.............poo and chicken poo and bird poo.