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17th July 2011, 21:38 #31
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Originally Posted by Lee Roy
If there were no gains to be made why do the top teams have huge engine programs?racing-reference.info/showblog?id=1785
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18th July 2011, 01:13 #32
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Originally Posted by call_me_andrew
Originally Posted by call_me_andrewDVR . . . . . Life is too short to watch commercials.
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18th July 2011, 02:39 #33
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Is Jayski a measure of great importance now? According to Jayski, July 20 is Rose Mattioli's birthday. Do you think this will cause NASCAR to change the size of the restrictor plate at Talladega?
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18th July 2011, 03:16 #34
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Originally Posted by call_me_andrewDVR . . . . . Life is too short to watch commercials.
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18th July 2011, 05:24 #35
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Originally Posted by call_me_andrew
I hope you are not an engineer.
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18th July 2011, 05:27 #36
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Originally Posted by call_me_andrew
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18th July 2011, 05:28 #37
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Originally Posted by Lee Roy
Remember he said switching from wing and splitter to spoiler and air-dam will have no affect on how the car handles.
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18th July 2011, 06:39 #38
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My point is that Jayski publishing something does not prove it is relevant to racing.
They didn't get rid of the splitter. As you can see in this shot, the splitter (white strip) is still alive and kicking. All that's changed is the struts are now concealed behind bodywork. There's no gain or loss of front downforce so it's purely a cosmetic change. It's no longer adjustable, but unless it's a plate track, stock cars are always set up for maximum downforce anyway.
The spoiler provides as much downforce as that wing did, but with more drag. This has lead to more aero push in turns (particularly at the 1.5 mile tracks), but it has brought a little slingshot passing to Michigan, Fontana, Pocono, and Indy which neither I nor anyone else expected. I'm not convinced that it'll keep tires on the ground at Talladega.
Let's look at the performance difference in pole speeds between the last Texas race with a wing, and the first Texas COT race with a spoiler.
Fall 2009, Kurt Busch was on pole at 191.117 mph. In Spring 2010 (just the third spoiler race), Denny Hamlin went 191.327 mph. If there was a real difference in single car performance, these speeds wouldn't have been so close.racing-reference.info/showblog?id=1785
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To derail this thread again, my fear is that the Impala will be seen by GM as a viable replacement for the Commodore. Come 2014 both the Impala and the Commodore will be up for renewal, and if the Commodore's experience being sold under the G8 nameplate at Pontiac is anything to go by, Detroit won't see the point in developing the next gen-Commodore when they can just fully import the Impala on the "Super Epsilon" II platform.
The 2013 and 2014 races just might be the final death-knells for the RWD Commodore. Detroit already killed Monaro, they can do it again.The Old Republic was a stupidly run organisation which deserved to be taken over. All Hail Palpatine!
Nonsense indeed when you even yourself admit they cite other publications… I wish them well but at the moment I don’t see them adding any value writing the same articles Anyway. Off topic ...
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