Flex in non-flexible wings

[SGWilko]

^Plus, the rules stipulate that the centre of the wing must have an aero neutral profile, so they shouldnt be generating much lift or downforce anyway.

Its been reported for some time now that RBR have spent several years developing advanced carbon layering techniques at the factory and its only in the last year that we've seen the benefits. Also, the suggestion is that it could take some time for the other teams to catch up because of the increased potential for wing failures.

Hmmmm - Frank and Patrick spent many years developing and perfecting their active ride only for it to be banned a couple of years later.

I hope the same happens here if they are really serious about cost cutting.

[Sleeper]

^We've got KERS back, does it look like they're serious about cost cutting?

[Alfa Fan]

The whole cost cutting thing is completely misguided. The only effect "cost-cutting" measures have is reducing the gap between the rich and poor teams. All teams spend whatever money they can get hold of! It just goes on more and more indirect expenses, like extra windtunnels, expanded CFD capacity, etc, etc. To compete at the front is no cheaper than it ever was.

[Bagwan]

^Plus, the rules stipulate that the centre of the wing must have an aero neutral profile, so they shouldnt be generating much lift or downforce anyway.

Its been reported for some time now that RBR have spent several years developing advanced carbon layering techniques at the factory and its only in the last year that we've seen the benefits. Also, the suggestion is that it could take some time for the other teams to catch up because of the increased potential for wing failures.

Part of the flex seems to be coming in that nose cone , so that "neutral profile" in the centre becomes a downforce generating profile , doesn't it ?

This is such clever thinking and should be applicable to many different areas in real life , that I am no longer completely insensed about the cost the development will represent to all the teams .
This is the kind of that really makes F1 relevent .

If this is what they are doing , then Newey really is a genius .
Consider that he was able to adapt the wing to a higher weight load last year .
That would mean he either had it designed to take additional weight to begin with , or he was able to adapt the lay-up to cope with it .

Either way , they really are light years ahead .

This is a turning point .

And , there's a big front wing auction coming soon .

[Dave B]

I hope the same happens here if they are really serious about cost cutting.

The point that I repeatedly make is that teams have raised a budget: they'll spend it. If not on the front wing or carbon technology, then somewhere else. What they will not do is say to their sponsors, "thanks but we've got plenty of money so here's a discount".

[Bagwan]

Here's how Horner explains it :
"McLaren have developed a car that has a very low rear ride height, and therefore a low front wing for them doesn't work. We run quite a high rake angle in our car, so inevitably when the rear of the car is higher, the front of the car is going to be lower to the ground.
It is obvious science, and therefore our wing complies fully with the regulations. It will look lower to the ground because the rake in our car is higher. It is simple mathematics."

Geez , why didn't I think of that ?
Phttt .

Yeah , Christian , that's why McLaren ran that experimental strutless tea tray last race , to get more rake on the floor .

It's all so simple .
So , it's time to brew some tea , as , all we have to do to get that speed they have , is raise the back end of the car .
Silly man , really let that old feline out of that sack there now , didn't he , eh , what ?

Pass the crumpets , would you ?

[Zico]

Yes Christian, You had four men intentionaly obstructing the view while Vettel had a new wing fitted for Q3, after allegedly damaging it in Q2. Suddenly to be almost 1 second faster... it was all a red herring, just gamesmanship, but now you've decided to give the other teams a hint to make the season more interesting and let the cat out the bag, how gracious of you!

[ioan]

Message to McLaren: Get smart or get lost!

[Sleeper]

Part of the flex seems to be coming in that nose cone , so that "neutral profile" in the centre becomes a downforce generating profile , doesn't it ?

Not really since the surface area top and bottom will remain the same,as will the curvature of the wing. However, it will interact with the ground differently and its possible that it could be generating a small amount of downforce from that.

[Zico]

Not really since the surface area top and bottom will remain the same,as will the curvature of the wing. However, it will interact with the ground differently and its possible that it could be generating a small amount of downforce from that.

Yes, the lower the wing is to the ground the greater the wings efficiency, based on Bernoulli's principle, also the main principle of ground effect.