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    Quote Originally Posted by Bagwan
    There will be penalties for using the device outside the zone , or unqualified use , but , what will these be ?
    As I gather is, the software would only let it work in "special zones", so you won't be able to use them outside the zones at all...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bagwan
    And , if it's tight at the end of the race , who will want to be leading the penultimate lap ?

    I understand there will , at least , be a "sitting duck" announcer , in the broadcast , to show us who is getting hosed , so we will know when skill is involved in the pass , and not the POS( oh , sorry , I meant DRS) wing thingy .
    I have a fear that what this will turn into... It will be the race of the slowest, with no one wanting to be ahead of anyone else...
    Try your luck on the last straight of the last lap? Is this supposed to be racing?

    What happens if there is a safety car? The lead car will be overtaken by the 8 cars behind it?
    Since they can't defend position anyway and the cars behind them will have more speed, where does it leave them? From first out of them top 10 on one straight???

    So much for the possibility of epic battles.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bagwan
    Is this a five car pile-up waiting to happen ?
    Probably is. I just hope they realise how pathetically stupid it is in the first race and scrap it immediately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave B
    Let the teams have unrestricted KERS. If they think the extra power is worth the weight penalty, that's their decision. Mandate a less effective front and rear wing, then let the drivers GO RACING without any stupid gimmicks.

    If we ever get reverse grids, ballast, sprinklers, or any of the other nonsense Bernie wants, I'm off.
    Yeah, it is quite funny how FIA dudes cannot understand that most real racing fans want just one thing. Give the drivers proper cars and let them race. None of this entertainment crap, this is not Wrestling.



    Quote Originally Posted by Koz
    What happens if there is a safety car? The lead car will be overtaken by the 8 cars behind it?

    Probably is. I just hope they realise how pathetically stupid it is in the first race and scrap it immediately.
    1) Thats a good point actually, have FIA said anything about how this works during SC period? It would be complete nonsense if it truly was like that the only the leading car cannot use the extra speed.

    2) They will realize, but they wont scrap it. This is supposedly a plan worthy of Einstein that they came up with, they would never admit what every F1 fan with an IQ over 40 already knows - this idea is nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry Walker
    2) They will realize, but they wont scrap it. This is supposedly a plan worthy of Einstein that they came up with, they would never admit what every F1 fan with an IQ over 40 already knows - this idea is nonsense.
    Could the GPDA could boycott it's use?

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    The problem with the new rear wing thing is very simple. Imagine that you're with one of your friends who is vaguely in F1, but not a fan like we are here. During the race, said mate turns to you and says "what's all that rear wing wing zone, adjustable stuff about?" Could you effectively answer the question in ten words?

    The tyres situation will spice things up enough. Pirelli have done the right thing. And the lesson? If the world is too boring for you, just add Italy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry Walker
    1) Thats a good point actually, have FIA said anything about how this works during SC period? It would be complete nonsense if it truly was like that the only the leading car cannot use the extra speed.

    2) They will realize, but they wont scrap it. This is supposedly a plan worthy of Einstein that they came up with, they would never admit what every F1 fan with an IQ over 40 already knows - this idea is nonsense.
    well said
    you can't argue with results.

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    Before 2009 there were fears of a huge pile-up too if all cars push the KERS button after the start. Usually reality turns out to be less dramatic than predicted - drivers are professionals and adapt. And in the past in F1 there have been a fair amount of pile-ups in any case, so we wouldn't see anything historic.

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    Race director Charlie Whiting has denied that the new moveable rear wings in Formula 1 will give race control any more influence over races.

    The system allow drivers to reduce drag, aiding overtaking in straights.

    It can only be deployed if a driver is within a second of the car in front, as measured by race control, and from a specific point on the track.

    "Race control has no influence over the outcome of a race. The system will be armed automatically," said Whiting.

    The introduction of the moveable rear wings, along with the return of the Kers system which reapplies kinetic energy that would otherwise have been lost as heat, has been designed to make the sport more exciting in 2011.

    The system will be tuned with with the intention of assisting the following driver, not guaranteeing him an overtaking manoeuvre

    Charlie Whiting

    However, some have suggested that a device that can only be used with approval from the FIA's race control could be a source of controversy.

    Whiting stated that the rules are clear and allow no room for subjectivity.

    "Cars will simply have to get within one second of the one in front, the system will be armed automatically and the driver can use it at the predetermined point," added Whiting.

    "There is no question of race control being able to intervene."

    Whiting said the benefit of the moveable wing system is "likely to be in the region of 10-12km/h difference at the end of the straight", but he is also keen to ensure that it does not become decisive in battles between drivers.

    "It should be remembered though that the distance over which the system may be used is going to be tuned with the intention of assisting the following driver, not guaranteeing him an overtaking manoeuvre," he commented.

    In the event of a malfunction in the FIA's timings systems, drivers will be able to activate the system without being notified by the on-board electronics, but they will still need permission from race control.

    Heavy penalties will be imposed for its unauthorised use.

    Whiting added that there will be lines painted on the track to indicate where proximity between two cars is detected and again on the following straight to show where the driver can use the system.

    It is thought that the latter line will come around 600 metres before the braking zone.

    Television broadcasters will be sent a signal when the system is armed to enable them to inform their viewers.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/9426578.stm


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