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    i think a little closer evaluation of JV vs Button will reveal a different story
    he really needs to beat RB or I would think he is in trouble. Honda like Toyota has made many mistakes and like it or not F1 resides in italy or great britain. Willis was a big mistake for them as ove is for toyota. Craig had the team poised to win and then Barf pissed it away. it will be a struggle to get back and will Honda stay the course?/?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClarkFan
    The problem being that the BAR/Honda designs haven't been well sorted at the start any of the last 3 seasons.
    True. Looking back to last year's Australian GP, although Button qualified well his race pace was poor. The problem then was getting enough heat into the tyres over longer distances, but JB's comment about the 2006 problem is interesting...:
    "With our car, we need to change something but at the moment we don't know what."
    ...in the light of Nick Fry's comment this year that:
    "we are not really understanding the fundamental issue and that is something we really need to come to terms with."
    Little has changed
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
    Little has changed
    Indeed They know how to build a race car with 4 wheels and a steering wheel (hell I could do that and so could you) but they dont seem to be able to build a fast, balanced and reliable race car which is what is needed to win in F1.

    Until they start "understanding" their own car, Honda will remain an also ran Button must be p!$$ed with the situation with Honda :
    "But it aint how hard you hit, it's about how hard you can get hit, and keep moving forward. How much you can take, and keep moving forward. That's how winning is done." Rocky.

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    Talking You're kidding, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by ioan
    TS and JB might be both very fast, but one thing that JB never had and TS has plenty of it is that killer instinct needed in racing.
    Some will say that Takuma made wrong moves while using his killer instinct, .........
    Yeah, like trying to ram everyone on the track; and when he missed the drivers, he went for the tyre fences. :
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    Quote Originally Posted by 555-04Q2
    Indeed They know how to build a race car with 4 wheels and a steering wheel (hell I could do that and so could you) but they dont seem to be able to build a fast, balanced and reliable race car which is what is needed to win in F1.

    Until they start "understanding" their own car, Honda will remain an also ran Button must be p!$$ed with the situation with Honda :
    ...............and go for a drive with Williams
    When in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout

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