Prodrive Mini WRC

[Juha_Koo]

they are real sportsmen and women in that team, and results speak for them. Congrats to double chevron team.

ROFL!

Yeah, real sportsmen and women! Unlike Ford, they have utilised incredibly ruthless team tactics (remember Rautenbach in Poland?) for many years. Versus the Ford, letting JML win in Sardinia back in 2009, etc.

Now these "real sportsmen" will kick out Dani Sordo, the real man behind Citroen's manufacturer world titles. A guy who has done terrible amount of work to gain more speed and shown unconditional integrity and obedience towards the team. The team's reward to him? "Sorry, you have no car in our team next season. Kthanxbye!"

I'm very happy for Sordo for having a go with Mini.

[urabus-denoS2000]

Both Citroen and Ford have shown sport-killing tactics over the last years , so non of them are 100% sportsmen

[urabus-denoS2000]

Here's proof ... France 2008


SS15

1.1S. LOEBM3:26:25.70.00.0
2.4F. DUVALM3:27:51.1+1:25.4+1:25.4
3.8J. LATVALAM3:28:23.8+32.7+1:58.1
4.3M. HIRVONENM3:29:55.3+1:31.5+3:29.6

SS16

1.1S. LOEBM3:42:58.00.00.0
2.3M. HIRVONENM3:46:22.7+3:24.7+3:24.7
3.4F. DUVALM3:46:29.6+6.9+3:31.6
4.8J. LATVALAM3:46:35.5+5.9+3:37.5

I dont think comment is neccesary

ROFL!

Yeah, real sportsmen and women! Unlike Ford, they have utilised incredibly ruthless team tactics (remember Rautenbach in Poland?) for many years. Versus the Ford, letting JML win in Sardinia back in 2009, etc.

Now these "real sportsmen" will kick out Dani Sordo, the real man behind Citroen's manufacturer world titles. A guy who has done terrible amount of work to gain more speed and shown unconditional integrity and obedience towards the team. The team's reward to him? "Sorry, you have no car in our team next season. Kthanxbye!"

I'm very happy for Sordo for having a go with Mini.

I think you are right on a marketting side but thats it really.
On a sporting side Ogier happens to be faster than Sordo so a real sportsman team who wants to be the best they can takes whoever is the best, that's it. At least they paid Sordo to do HIS JOB.

You know what they say in Finland:

Elämä on!

Rahalla ei saa onnea ja menestystä, pitää ne rahat osata käyttääkin...

(That's life ! You cannot buy luck and success with money you have to know how to use the money)

[ridder]

Sordo is fantastic asset to have in a team. This guy has a lot of knowledge of Citroën cars from the past years. David Richards is smart to hire him.
They can now benefit from him to develop their car further, together with Markko Martin and Kris Meeke those three drivers are a very complete package.

I see success very soon for Mini.

You know what car was the last car Prodrive and Markko Martin developed together?

2008 Impreza, the one with huge grip/handling problems on low-grip surfaces which nobody ever found a solution to. Even Østberg prefers to drive the 2007 Impreza on these surfaces over it.

Makes me rather skeptical about Prodrive Mini.

That said Sordo is the best available choice for them, he's faster than PG, by a lot on tarmac and probably even on gravel and has tons of experience. Only other comparable choice would be Solberg, but neither him nor Prodrive want to work together anymore. Can't really blame Solberg for that, telling them for 3 years that the car is bad, to be mostly ignored in the end.

[cali]

You know what car was the last car Prodrive and Markko Martin developed together?

2008 Impreza, the one with huge grip/handling problems on low-grip surfaces which nobody ever found a solution to. Even Østberg prefers to drive the 2007 Impreza on these surfaces over it.

Makes me rather skeptical about Prodrive Mini.

That said Sordo is the best available choice for them, he's faster than PG, by a lot on tarmac and probably even on gravel and has tons of experience. Only other comparable choice would be Solberg, but neither him nor Prodrive want to work together anymore. Can't really blame Solberg for that, telling them for 3 years that the car is bad, to be mostly ignored in the end.

Markko did not develop the car. He was testing it after it was developed. He was called in to help, because this car was born dead. Get your facts right

[ridder]

Markko did not develop the car. He was testing it after it was developed. He was called in to help, because this car was born dead. Get your facts right

Thanks, didn't know that. Nevertheless it doesn't seem he could help.

[PLuto]

Ok and what Andersson? http://www.eurosport.se/rally/p-g-ak...10/story.shtml

So that the Mini team with Meeke, Andersson, Sordo and "Bosse"...?

Andersson is out...

[tmx]

That said Sordo is the best available choice for them, he's faster than PG, by a lot on tarmac and probably even on gravel and has tons of experience.

What? I've never seen the two go head to head in similar performance car. A manu C4 is faster than a SX4, can't count that one-off with Stobart.

[Barreis]

Turan was faster on some stages.. Bad mistake for Turan when turned to Stobart..