Recce in WRC rally

[atsiotras79]

I have to agree with N.O.T. about the situation in Greece with recce. And for me the problem is not the unlimited passes if they are done according to speed limits. It is allowed. The problem is that for the last month or so before the rally it is very dangerous for somebody to go and see the stages, or go to work if he lives in the area, because they are doing recce in full rally pace. And that is the reason that people do not want rallies in their area!!!

Incidents are uncountable during the last years in Greece. I have seen with my own eyes, competitor doing recce 10 mins before the ss closes for a local rallysprint at full rally speed and major accident being avoided by pure luck!!!!

Ok back to WRC recce, yes again N.O.T. is correct. Most of the Greeks are doing illegal recce the last months before the rallies Acropolis and ELPA, but at least now there is one problem less, there is no ELPA rally anymore...

[WRCS14]

I am surprised this is still happening at WRC level, I remember I think 4 or 5 years ago I read on maybe this site Irish rally champion was caught by some sort of hi tech cameras before the rally carrying out illegal practice to try gain an advantage, surely WRC could maybe do similar. I think it is still a poor sign of the driver as I said it will take a lot more than sneaking around special stages in advance to beat Ogier etc.

Although the sad fact is maybe these cheaters will continue as to get people to observe stages in times before the rally is probably near impossible as people have work/family etc.

[mousti]

In Belgium it's also a big problem, u can't almost avoid it..

[sollitt]

A few years ago a friend was caught marginally exceeding the speed limit in a service park in RNZ. The fines on WRC events are dished out by FIA and his was US$5000 from memory. I wonder what the fine for illegal recce on WRC events would be. Get a few of these dished out and the problem might stop.

[Carlo]

A few years ago a friend was caught marginally exceeding the speed limit in a service park in RNZ. The fines on WRC events are dished out by FIA and his was US$5000 from memory. I wonder what the fine for illegal recce on WRC events would be. Get a few of these dished out and the problem might stop.

Many years ago a well known NZ competitor was caught in the Motu going, according to him, fishing for trout. The fine was US$ 10,000. He has never paid it and accordingly his competition licence is still suspended

[janvanvurpa]

Many years ago a well known NZ competitor was caught in the Motu going, according to him, fishing for trout. The fine was US$ 10,000. He has never paid it and accordingly his competition licence is still suspended

If he's so well known, then why don't I know him? 8)
Or, if you know his name why wouldn't you just say it, so we'd know the well known guy well, too.
Well?

[janvanvurpa]

A few years ago a friend was caught marginally exceeding the speed limit in a service park in RNZ. The fines on WRC events are dished out by FIA and his was US$5000 from memory. I wonder what the fine for illegal recce on WRC events would be. Get a few of these dished out and the problem might stop.

A few years ago a friend of mine was nearly run over by Lovell, gawd rest his soul, and had to literally jump aside. Speed limit in the control area was 5 mph or 9 km/hr. and the car was going at least 45-50 km/hr, revving good. Exclusion was in the rules book and the supplemental regs. Inquiry filed. 6 weeks later, on a Friday night, result of the Stewards was given "as it is impossible to say exactly how fast the car was going , it is impossible to say with certainty Lovell was in fact exceeding the speed limit".


Helps to have one greedy and corrupt gang of "officials" bought and paid for by Subaru Rally Team USA...

[Carlo]

If he's so well known, then why don't I know him? 8)
Or, if you know his name why wouldn't you just say it, so we'd know the well known guy well, too.
Well?

If you had been following the sport 25 years or so a go you would have read all about it for it was reported by the the NZ & overseas media as he was refused a start in the event, of course it was print media and in those days and you may not have received NZ, UK or European based rallysport based magazines in the good old USA

[sollitt]

Not a particularly prominent competitor outside of NZ though Carl so few would know of the incident or in fact of the person himself - only old farts like you & me with long memories.
Point is, if the same penalties were applied to the competitors our Greek friends are complaining about they may very well learn to modify their behaviour.