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    UN panel: Israel broke international laws in deadly flotilla raid

    Like we didn't already know it:

    http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/me...ort/index.html

    But I guess it's still futile to expect they'd put some sanctions on Israel.
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    What kind of sanctions did you have in mind? As a general rule, sanctions are used to create economic penalties that pressure a government into stopping or modifying a certain policy or behaviour. Israel already stopped the ship, it is a done event. I doubt sanctions will make Israel drop their blockade and I doubt that the UN would be successful in getting member nations to assemble an escort flotilla to see future ships safely into port. The UN and it's members cannot afford to have Israel prove that a ship under their escort did indeed carry contraband.

    It's kind of like the British government preventing attempts to dive on the Lusitania wreck for so many years. A couple of dives would have proven the Lusitania was carrying war material and therefore a legitimate target and not the innocent passenger ship she was made out to be. The outrage would have shifted from Germany for sinking her to the British government for endangering civilian lives by using them to smuggle contraband.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiero 5.7
    What kind of sanctions did you have in mind? As a general rule, sanctions are used to create economic penalties that pressure a government into stopping or modifying a certain policy or behaviour.
    That's just what I have in mind. IMO the current behaviour and policies of Israel are not acceptable. IMO Israel should give back the occupied territories and make Israel a secular nation instead of a Jewish nation, maybe change its name too, because it has historical burden.
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    Again, what kind of sanctions do you have in mind?
    If legislation makes you equal, you aren't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eki
    That's just what I have in mind. IMO the current behaviour and policies of Israel are not acceptable. IMO Israel should give back the occupied territories and make Israel a secular nation instead of a Jewish nation, maybe change its name too, because it has historical burden.
    Much of the occupied territories were gained through war or hostilities Israel did not start. They are legitimate war prizes. Are the Arab nations prepared to buy these lands back along with extra payments for improvements and war costs?

    I am surprised that you, the champion of the sovereignty of small nations, should demand a nation to change it's name. Do you also demand that Islamic nations also become secular? The problem is that you can be Jewish by religion without being Jewish by race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eki
    Like we didn't already know it:

    http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/me...ort/index.html

    But I guess it's still futile to expect they'd put some sanctions on Israel.

    Yes sir. The U.N. Human Rights Council. That bastion of freedom and liberty that includes such beacons of Human Rights as their Vice Presidents Arcanjo Maria Do Nascimento of Angola and Rodolfo Reyes Rodríguez of Cuba.
    Along with the following open and transparent governments of China, Cuba, Libya and Nigeria.

    But lets us forget that little bit of crazy.

    Exactly what is International Law?
    Did the Citizens of Israel get a chance to vote on who represents them when these laws are cooked up? Is the vote of a nation like Burkino Fasso equal to a vote from a Country like the US?

    or

    Is International Law some silly P.R. Ideas for countries to use in defense of their actions & to use when wanting to sanction their enemies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eki
    Like we didn't already know it:
    Like anyone really cares?

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    Like anyone really cares?
    That's precisely the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by race aficionado
    That's precisely the problem.
    No, self-appointed people, sticking their noses where they have no real business, and trying to play god, is a far greater problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eki
    That's just what I have in mind. IMO the current behaviour and policies of Israel are not acceptable. IMO Israel should give back the occupied territories and make Israel a secular nation instead of a Jewish nation, maybe change its name too, because it has historical burden.
    Eki, do you recal Jenin? Hundreds killed and a investigation approved then denied a day or so later.

    From then on it has been very quiet. Not a peep from anyone in the world and all we see on TV is people driving around in fancy boats trying to save whales( just cause) but not what I would consider a priority.

    If anyone want s to see people living in modern day concentration like conditions then take a trip to Ramallah and Jenin.

    Forget that amonst the many there are some terrorists. Look at the children with the bloated bellies. The mothers clenching their children out of fear.

    One attack on Tel Aviv and it is in the news for days.

    Attack on Palestinians and it is not reported and if it is, then it is a token.

    We don't get news here in the US. Go to Europe. See the news on ITV, RTE, CH4 and others in mainland Europe.

    One question. How many here knows, honestly, without the benefit of Google how many faction are fighting in all of the Congo region. I am including DRC and Congo.
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