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    Nationwide Nimrods

    Since I can't call them Buschwackers anymore, how about Nationwide Nimrods? Take them out of the mix and the standings look like this....

    4 -1 Justin Allgaier 2833 -516 21 1 1 5 12

    7 -- Steve Wallace 2488 -861 21 0 0 1 10
    8 +1 Trevor Bayne 2365 -984 21 3 0 4 6
    9 -1 Brendan Gaughan 2347 -1002 21 0 0 3 7
    10 -- Jason Leffler 2326 -1023 21 0 0 4 7
    11 +3 Michael Annett 2225 -1124 21 0 0 0 2
    12 +1 Brian Scott* 2176 -1173 21 0 0 1 5
    13 -2 Reed Sorenson 2167 -1182 16 0 0 6 12
    14 +1 Tony Raines 2117 -1232 21 0 0 0 2

    16 -- Mike Bliss 1937 -1412 20 0 0 1 2
    17 +1 Kenny Wallace 1904 -1445 21 0 0 0 0
    18 -1 Mike Wallace 1895 -1454 21 0 0 0 0
    19 -- Ricky Stenhouse Jr.* 1799 -1550 19 0 0 1 3

    21 +1 Michael McDowell 1706 -1643 20 0 0 0 0
    22 -2 Eric McClure 1644 -1705 20 0 0 0 0
    23 -- Colin Braun* 1603 -1746 16 0 0 0 3
    24 -- Jason Keller 1586 -1763 17 0 0 1 1
    25 +2 Josh Wise 1440 -1909 18 0 0 0 1

    27 -1 Scott Lagasse Jr. 1328 -2021 14 0 0 0 1
    28 -- Shelby Howard 1318 -2031 13 0 0 0 0
    29 -- Robert Richardson Jr. 1271 -2078 15 0 0 0 0
    30 -- Morgan Shepherd 1180 -2169 17 0 0 0 0
    31 +2 Brian Keselowski 1099 -2250 17 0 0 0 0
    32 -1 Willie Allen 1080 -2269 12 0 0 0 0

    34 -- Mark Green 993 -2356 18 0 0 0 0
    35 -- James Buescher* 903 -2446 10 0 0 0 1

    Point is, I think it's fine to have a couple Nationwide Nimrods in the mix. But, I do not think any full time Cupster should be allowed to take points towards the driver championship. And I *really* like the idea of making them start in the back.

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    They are a necessary evil - needed for ticket sales and TV ratings and PR...so they will not disappear anytime soon.

    Maybe make 2 championships out of it..a Double Duty Prize and the N'wide Prize, plus Rookie O T Y.

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    let'em race, but not allow them to collect points, its a disgrace to autoracing

    its like F1 drivers going down to the GP2 series for S&G
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    Quote Originally Posted by edv
    They are a necessary evil - needed for ticket sales and TV ratings and PR...so they will not disappear anytime soon.
    Yeah, that's why Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Randy Moss, Miles Austin, Chris Johnson, and Jared Allen have been playing in the Arena Football League this year.
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    Geez guys, it's a race. Anyone can enter.
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    Sure they can Lee Roy.

    But dig this....the big dog owners had their little meeting on how to keep cost down. They complained about drivers, over the wall guys, and traveling mechanics taking all their money. Funny is that from what I gather, it was invitation only. So anyways, the big dogs bitch about 10 mill drivers while beating the crap out of guys who can barely afford tires. How's that for ironic?

    Point is, the big dogs would just as soon see anybody who isn't in their league go away. Well, that's fine. So why not have a league for the little guys? Oh, that's right. They do. It's called Nationwide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 71Fan
    So why not have a league for the little guys? Oh, that's right. They do. It's called Nationwide.
    The Nationwide, or Busch, or "Grand National" or "Sportsman" series has always been open to whoever wanted to race. Sorry if you're just discovering NASCAR.
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    If they really want to cut down on drivers running both series on the same weekend, they just have to schedule the Cup drivers meeting at the same time as the NW race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Roy
    The Nationwide, or Busch, or "Grand National" or "Sportsman" series has always been open to whoever wanted to race. Sorry if you're just discovering NASCAR.
    Ahhh Lee Roy.....I worked on a buddy's car for Sportsman's races way back when at Riverside. Please don't talk down to me like I just turned on the tv last week.

    Meanwhile.....Seems I'm a couple weeks late in checking the rumor mill.....

    from Jayski's

    NASCAR to limit number of NNS races for Cup drivers; change schedule? Speaking of the Nationwide Series, teams were told in private meetings this week a change to keep Cup drivers from competing for a championship there is virtually assured for 2011. The most likely idea will be a hard cap on the amount of races drivers can compete in elsewhere in NASCAR if they're inside the top-35 in Cup points, rigidly defining a sort of minor-to-major league system. But another interesting option being discussed is making six races on the schedule virtually impossible for Cup drivers to travel to, either putting them on the same day at different tracks or creating more standalone races over 2,000 miles apart each weekend.(Sports Illustrated)(7-22-2010)
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    I can't see Sports Illustrated reporting something that isn't at least semi-true. And all I can say is it's about time...even if I am two weeks behind in finding something that sorta confirms the rumor.

    As you can probably guess, I am really glad they are going to do something. At least the championship will be beyond the grasp of the Nimrods. Now if only they would cap the number of Nimrods per race at 2 or 3 ( or eliminate them altogether) make em start in the back, and not allow them any purse money, I might be really, really, really happy about it. As it is, I'm only really happy about it.

    But hey, it's a start. And who knows, Podunk High might just beat the Yankees more often than not next year. Something that hasn't happened in years.....Go Podunk!!!!!
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    I think it's a mistake. Without the "star-power" of the Cup drivers the "Nationwide" series will decline in status to the point that it may not exist, at least in it's current state. Many of it's stand alone races (that is, not paired with a Cup race) have failed.

    The days when it was a part time touring series for the NASCAR Sportsman Class regulars are long gone.
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