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12th March 2010, 07:44 #41
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I see his point though Dave. It does conform to the letter of the law but it's clearly not within the spirit of the rules.
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12th March 2010, 07:46 #42
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So? Once the green light goes on there is no "spirit", only a black and white rulebook.
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12th March 2010, 07:52 #43
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Hmmmmm. I think we shouldn't be throwing this in and costing all the teams countless milions of pounds or euros to do this on their car. As has been said, the rules in black and white can't be exhaustive and that's why we can put new rules in.
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12th March 2010, 08:10 #44
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I was on my phone before so long posts are tedious. Here's how I see it.
Back in the 90's you had 2 WRC teams who had "cheats" when it came to getting more air into the engine. Basically the rule in the rulebook said "All air that goes into the engine MUST go through the restrictor"
You had the famous TTE moving restrictor which allowed air into the turbo which hadn't gone through the restrictor. Definite and obvious although difficult to find cheat. They got banned.
Ford had a system on the Escort which involved a bottle which held compressed air. So what happened was that the turbo compressed the air and on pretty much anything but part throttle, the engine was sucking in more air with the turbo than it was actually burning so when the driver did put their foot flat they could have an extra boost from the stored air in the tank. It conformed to the letter of the rules as no air went into the engine that hadn't gone through the restrictor. The FIA still banned it and quite rightfully so.Rule 1 of the forum, always accuse anyone who disagrees with you of bias.I would say that though.
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12th March 2010, 08:12 #45
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Assuming that being faster in speed trap is purely results of that wings innovation, teams may assert protests, imo.
What springs to mind if FIA considers it legal, while this innovation is great beneficial for McLaren, and entices more teams to do the same thing, would McLaren claim it their intellectual property that none can copy it from them, except the fact that teams cannot cut holes in the safety cell once the season has started.
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12th March 2010, 08:45 #46
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Originally Posted by henners88Rule 1 of the forum, always accuse anyone who disagrees with you of bias.I would say that though.
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12th March 2010, 08:47 #47
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Yeah, teams have to take into account all variables, especially the engine, with or without it McLaren runs cars with high reliability.
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Originally Posted by Daniel
Ferrari's wheels may or may not be in the spirit of the rules outlawing hubcaps, but the FIA says they're legal so they stay. It's the same with McLaren's wing, just as it was last year with double diffusers.
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12th March 2010, 09:31 #49
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Originally Posted by Daniel
We are always told that one of the main attractions of the sport is the technology and innovations that the teams come up with year after year. Those come from their different interpretations of the rules governing the design of the cars, and those rules have become more and more restrictive over the years. The "spirit" of the rules is pretty much the only area where the teams have room for manoeuvre, and it's the one area which isn't defined anywhere in the rulebook.
In this case, as with the DD, the interpretation of the rules has been declared legal. The only way for it to be made illegal is for something to be written into the rules and that may well happen for 2011.
Renault may complain about "another arms race" costing other teams money, but that's the way F1 works and always has done. If we don't want it to be like this then I'd suggest a spec-car is the way to go.Riccardo Patrese - 256GPs 1977-1993
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I tired by the constant whining by Renault and Red Bull, honestly. Hopefully, like last year, they will fail.
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