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    Just some quick questions

    What is the purpose of the RGT class, who do you see as the typical buyer/driver?

    What kind of tempo speedwise on dry asphalt should a RGT car with a top driver manage?
    - Same as Rally4
    - Quicker than Rally4
    - Between Rally3 and Rally2

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyler View Post
    and 2wd shall not compare with 4! : )
    For what reason? 2WD cars can be faster than 4WD and often they are. It's only about the exact spec. and rules not about being 2WD per se (see Dakar).

    The issue with GT cars is that they represent premium brands and rather expensive, yet hardly faster than an uptuned shopping bag called Rally4/R2. Comparing the investment in them with R5 cars is quite natural because in terms of money there's not much difference.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    What is the purpose of the RGT class, who do you see as the typical buyer/driver?
    God knows because with the existing rules they are basically just a tool for fun for a few enthusiasts.
    Last edited by Mirek; 25th January 2021 at 19:10.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    Just some quick questions

    What is the purpose of the RGT class, who do you see as the typical buyer/driver?

    What kind of tempo speedwise on dry asphalt should a RGT car with a top driver manage?
    - Same as Rally4
    - Quicker than Rally4
    - Between Rally3 and Rally2
    Depends a lot on the stages. If dry and slowing uphill road, they can challenge Rally2 cars (see results Mont-Blanc 2020). For sure it's quicker than a Rally4 on any conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dupanton View Post
    For sure it's quicker than a Rally4 on any conditions.
    Well, no. We have yet to see any RGT to defeat R2/Rally4 on Barum for example

    If you meant specifically Alpine and not the whole RGT class than it might be true. We'll see (hopefully) in summer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    Just some quick questions

    What is the purpose of the RGT class, who do you see as the typical buyer/driver?

    What kind of tempo speedwise on dry asphalt should a RGT car with a top driver manage?
    - Same as Rally4
    - Quicker than Rally4
    - Between Rally3 and Rally2
    Always quicker than rally4.

    But when it comes to comparing it to 4x4 cars it depends on the stages. As long as its dry asphalt they should be able to beat rally3 and even match rally2 on certain stages.

    On wide flowing stages like spain they could do very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post
    Always quicker than rally4.
    That simply isn't true. There are plenty of events where Rally4 have been faster than RGT.

    The allegedly main field for RGT is supposed to be the ERC, yet RGT in 2020 didn't beat Rally4 in a single ERC rally! They lost by 17 minutes in Hungary, by 9 minutes in Rome and by 3 minutes on Canarias.
    Last edited by Mirek; 26th January 2021 at 13:04.
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    Don't compare Alpine with Abarth, neither the drivers of Alpine (Robert, Astier, Guigou) with Abarth ones Wait some more rallies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira View Post
    Don't compare Alpine with Abarth, neither the drivers of Alpine (Robert, Astier, Guigou) with Abarth ones Wait some more rallies.
    Astier did ERC last year and the question was about RGT, not about Alpine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    For what reason? 2WD cars can be faster than 4WD and often they are. It's only about the exact spec. and rules not about being 2WD per se (see Dakar).
    True, but speaking of rally exact spec. and rules, maybe they'll compare to rally3, as for now, they don't really do with 4wd unless in some particular condition.

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