GT Class

[Rally Power]

There are many drivers who only drive for fun but don't have a budget for a r5 car.
If the price is right, that means lots of horses for an acceptable price, they will sell.

Yep, plus some of the wealthy rally drivers currently running R5 cars (and even WRC’s) without caring about wins or titles. And if Porsche starts a Rally Cup with good prizes, it wouldn’t be hard to also see young and talented drivers behind the wheel of a Cayman. Fingers crossed.

[denkimi]

I keep hearing that for ages but show me any car for which this idea worked. There were plenty of attempts but never ever succeeded. There is as well plenty of cheap old used cars but nobody buys them.

There is a quite popular bmw m-cup in belgium. There are also quite a few porsche's, we had 10 of them at the start of the tac rally.
And untill they decided to ban the drivers of they won a rally we also had some old wrc cars as an alternative to r5's.

If they can build them cheap, they will sell them. There is a market for powerful rwd cars.
But only is the price and running cost is different enough from an r5.

[pantealex]

Cheap and (new) Porsche don´t mix

[Rally Power]

A couple of years ago, a 911 SCRS (an ex-Prodrive unit) got a mind blowing bid of $1.100.000 at the Monterey auctions; owner refused, he was asking 1.4M…

Btw, Porsche Motorsport is still selling Cayman GT4 Clubsport racing units. They’ve announced a price around €120.000 when it was released, at the end of 2015. A road legal rally version would likely cost way more.

[racerx1979]

Well they are hoping for a cheaper price point than a new R5. They will also be using a factory PDK which will be a lot cheaper to run than a proper sequential such as a Sadev.. A lot cheaper.

The GT4 Clubsport for circuit racing is $165K USD. I'm assuming the rally version will be slightly higher due to underbody protection and all the other rally essentials which are not needed for circuit racing. Say it goes to $170-180k with service intervals much better than an R5 I'm sure gentlemen racers would look into it. The only problem is it would mainly be a tarmac rally car which makes an R5 a much better choice IMO, but that's me.

[denkimi]

If they put a price around or below 120k € they will sell them. If they go higher teams will just buy a second hands r5.

[racerx1979]

Not going to happen. These will be $160-180 USD or $140+ euros.

[Rally Power]

If they put a price around or below 120k € they will sell them.

Yep, that looks impossible: Abarth is selling the 124 Rally for €140.000. It’s hard to tell how much a Cayman Clubsport RGT would cost more than the circuit version (btw, there are two of them and the most expensive MR costs over €160k) but, most likely, it will be expensive to buy, although cheap to maintain. Yet the Cayman can still be a good deal if they launch it through a well promoted and big funded Porsche rally cup.

[denkimi]

Yep, that looks impossible: Abarth is selling the 124 Rally for €140.000. It’s hard to tell how much a Cayman Clubsport RGT would cost more than the circuit version (btw, there are two of them and the most expensive MR costs over €160k) but, most likely, it will be expensive to buy, although cheap to maintain. Yet the Cayman can still be a good deal if they launch it through a well promoted and big funded Porsche rally cup.

Then they won't sell many, if any. Just like fiat.

From 130k on you start to get in the territory of used r5's that are faster.

[AndyRAC]

From 130k on you start to get in the territory of used r5's that are faster.

Then you bring in BoP to allow them to take on the R5s........then stand back and watch the fireworks from the R5 Manufacturers.....(we've seen this film before in WEC.. ). Obviously not going to happen.....