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    Quote Originally Posted by pantealex View Post
    I´m very interested to see modern RWD on gravel

    Probably slow but could look great
    Abarths were competing on gravel last year. But in the final only on fast gravel in Liepaja.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    That simply isn't true. There are plenty of events where Rally4 have been faster than RGT.

    The allegedly main field for RGT is supposed to be the ERC, yet RGT in 2020 didn't beat Rally4 in a single ERC rally! They lost by 17 minutes in Hungary, by 9 minutes in Rome and by 3 minutes on Canarias.
    There are events where rally4 has been faster than rally2 or wrc cars, but that doesn't make it rule.

    Rgt cars are faster than rally4 cars. If they are still being beaten then its up to the drivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pantealex View Post
    I´m very interested to see modern RWD on gravel

    Probably slow but could look great
    You can find them online, but I don't think you will find it very spectacular.

    Rally Poland:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABEOVqnamf4

    Rally Liepaja:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0MhomIfTj8
    http://www.rallymadness.prv.pl - rally photos and movies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post
    There are events where rally4 has been faster than rally2 or wrc cars, but that doesn't make it rule.

    Rgt cars are faster than rally4 cars. If they are still being beaten then its up to the drivers.
    I reacted on the statement that RGT are always faster. They are not. Period. There were already several seasons of RGT cups in the ERC yet you have to search really hard to find an RGT car in front of an R2/Rally4 in finish of any of the events. In 2020 there was none in the whole season despite attempts by good drivers.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    I see the RGT cars as a car first and foremost for gentleman drivers, and drivers that did not make the top level, but still want to drive for fun. Sometimes it is better to leave RC2 so you dont have to be measured to the best in every rally you do.

    The GT cars, being 2wd and not having the same suspension travel as a car made for rally from the drawing board, will be only fighting amongst themselves.

    Think of getting a sponsor package together, that makes it interesting for legend drivers to came back in the sport in a RGT. Getting Loeb, some Solbergs, Hirvonen, Meeke, and so on.
    Would be great to see the slide, play and enjoy the rallies, and show us car control in good looking rally cars!

    In some rallies they might be on par with Rally4, in others might be closer to a Rally2 car. But that is not the point, they fight eachother, and entertain us!

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    Sulland, building castles in clouds don't help.

    RGT rules in essence offer cars which are too difficult to drive for gentleman drivers to achieve any results but don't attract anyone else because driving them doesn't propel anyone's career, i.e. they spiral in a vicious circle from which they effectively can not break away.

    Sure the Abarth and especially the Alpine offer an attempt to approach the RGT from another angle - to build small, light and nimble car instead of the overpowered heavy monsters which failed before (but even that was attempted before with Lotus but everybody forgot already). They offer a glimpse of hope but not much more because the reality is cruel - Abarth production ended and the cars live only by inertia, Porsche found out that it makes no sense so they stopped their Cayman project before it got even homologated. It means that Alpine is alone and likely will stay so. It can be (and most likely is) faster and better than any other RGT cars before but it is alone. A one-eyed king among the blind.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    You know I have been a very vocal critic of the RGTs. Color me surprised because this is actually something worth appreciation!
    https://www.ewrc-results.com/results...te-dazur-2021/
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    You know I have been a very vocal critic of the RGTs. Color me surprised because this is actually something worth appreciation!
    https://www.ewrc-results.com/results...te-dazur-2021/
    Wow, that really is something!

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    The Dirtfish story about Nicolas Ciamin winning the Antibes Rally with an Alpine A110 Rally RGT.
    https://dirtfish.com/rally/the-drive...ait-for-a-win/

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    Very good drive by Alpine drivers at Monaco.
    Espesially up the snowstage 13, sorry no tv from that.

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