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    Quote Originally Posted by dupanton View Post
    You have to compare the drivers as well. An Alpine with a top driver vs the ERC Junior RC4 cars, the Alpine will always win imo. Even in Barum or in wet conditions.
    Even in Monte Carlo, the first Alpine has beaten the first Rally4 by 7,5min! And Latil isn't a bad driver at all.
    As I said Alpine =/= RGT class. Alpine may set better ERC record but we have to wait for that (I believe it will thanks to it's mid-engine design). So far RGT cars have been slower than Rally4 in nearly all ERC events even with Astier or Nucita driving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    As I said Alpine =/= RGT class. So far RGT cars have been slower than Rally4 in nearly all ERC events even with Astier or Nucita driving.
    When you've mentioned Nucita, two rallies in Slovenia came to my mind as he was participating it.
    First was Rally Vipava 2018, the whole event was in a sunny and dry conditions (I know as I was also a copilot on this event). Nucita did not have any troubles beating local drivers in R2 cars (and especially Humar and Novak are very fast local drivers)

    https://www.ewrc-results.com/results...2018/?s=175356

    Second rally, at the end of the season Rally Idrija was held in a heavy rain (it was already on the verge of regularity) and Nucita again beat R2 drivers.

    https://www.ewrc-results.com/final/4...y-idrija-2018/

    So to say that RGT cars are generally slower than R2 (Rally4) is not justified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ucci View Post
    So to say that RGT cars are generally slower than R2 (Rally4) is not justified.
    I didn't say that. I have reacted to a statement that RGT is always faster than Rally4. Just look at the previous page.
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    We will have more chances for comparisons, because Abarth Rally Cup will continue as part of the European Championship in 2021. Hopefully we will see some Alpines in ERC as well.
    https://www.fiaerc.com/fia-erc-based...ction-in-2021/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarek Z View Post
    We will have more chances for comparisons, because Abarth Rally Cup will continue as part of the European Championship in 2021. Hopefully we will see some Alpines in ERC as well.
    https://www.fiaerc.com/fia-erc-based...ction-in-2021/
    There is a plan for some Alpine drivers to compete in ERC. Their biggest problem is that Alpine doesnt have gravel suspension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PLuto View Post
    There is a plan for some Alpine drivers to compete in ERC. Their biggest problem is that Alpine doesnt have gravel suspension.
    Im very interested to see modern RWD on gravel

    Probably slow but could look great
    "quattro best 4wd rallycar ever"

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    Quote Originally Posted by pantealex View Post
    Im very interested to see modern RWD on gravel

    Probably slow but could look great
    Abarths were competing on gravel last year. But in the final only on fast gravel in Liepaja.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    That simply isn't true. There are plenty of events where Rally4 have been faster than RGT.

    The allegedly main field for RGT is supposed to be the ERC, yet RGT in 2020 didn't beat Rally4 in a single ERC rally! They lost by 17 minutes in Hungary, by 9 minutes in Rome and by 3 minutes on Canarias.
    There are events where rally4 has been faster than rally2 or wrc cars, but that doesn't make it rule.

    Rgt cars are faster than rally4 cars. If they are still being beaten then its up to the drivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pantealex View Post
    Im very interested to see modern RWD on gravel

    Probably slow but could look great
    You can find them online, but I don't think you will find it very spectacular.

    Rally Poland:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABEOVqnamf4

    Rally Liepaja:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0MhomIfTj8
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    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post
    There are events where rally4 has been faster than rally2 or wrc cars, but that doesn't make it rule.

    Rgt cars are faster than rally4 cars. If they are still being beaten then its up to the drivers.
    I reacted on the statement that RGT are always faster. They are not. Period. There were already several seasons of RGT cups in the ERC yet you have to search really hard to find an RGT car in front of an R2/Rally4 in finish of any of the events. In 2020 there was none in the whole season despite attempts by good drivers.
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