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13th November 2009, 01:53 #1
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Will the new teams beat any of the old ones?
Following Lotus' claims that they will be the most successful of the new teams to Formula One, does anyone thing that they, Campos, USF1 or Manor, will finish ahead of any of the established teams in 2010 in the constructors' Championship? (Established teams include Sauber and 'Toyota')
Personally, and I have the utmost repect for Toro Rosso, but I think if anyone will be beaten by a rookie squad next year it will be them, simply because they (the Minardi/STR team) have not had to design a car for 4 years, and it may not be quick enough, at least out of the box.
I don't think Brawn, Sauber, Force India and Williams will have any problems with them.
I could be wrong, and a new team could come in and score some points straight away, but we have to be realistic and expect the lot of them to score 0, simplay because 28 cars into 8 points scoring places doesn't fit unless the attrition rate is ridiculous.
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13th November 2009, 03:19 #2
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No! next question, please.
When in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout
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13th November 2009, 04:55 #3
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Lotus not really Lotus stands the best chance.
Mike Gascoyne is at the helm, just signed on Aerolab, and buckets of cash.Marco Simoncelli 1987-2011
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13th November 2009, 06:12 #4
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Originally Posted by gloomyDAYFormula 1
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13th November 2009, 09:49 #5
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Yes.
Oh you want me to expand!
I think two of the new teams can pick up points in 2010. Monaco is a good chance. With 6 extra cars to bounce off the metal it could be CARmagedon (see what I did there ) and I can see a few teams running short on jungle juice in the last few laps too throwing in a few surprises.All other opinions are wrong....
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13th November 2009, 17:57 #6
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Originally Posted by SonicCongratulations Sebastian Vettel. Champion of the season of seasons.
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13th November 2009, 19:38 #7
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I reckon the best of the new teams will have a chance against STR, but thats about it.
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13th November 2009, 20:18 #8
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The first races of 2010 will probably give these new teams a chance to finish ahead. Like every year, all the teams will have a host of problems with their new new packages, especially at the first fly-away races.
Attrition, mechanical failures or the track layout will most likely see a new team earn points or even a podium finish!
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13th November 2009, 22:08 #9
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Originally Posted by Lemmy-Boy
Good to see Lotus's progress. Yes their constant PR isn't going to translate into performance, but at least we know they're progressing, not a peep from any of the other teams. That's not to say they're not working hard behind closed doors though, I think Manor will be a bit of a dark horse and it'll be between them and Lotus for the best of the new teams, and I agree Toro Rosso will probably be the weakest of the established teams since they won't have Red Bull holding their hand as much, and the facility hasn't designed and built an F1 car since 2005. Don't get me wrong I don't think they'll have a problem showing up, but I think they will go backwards.
Of course my predictions mean sweet FA - who would have thought Jenson Button and the reincarnated Honda would be world champions right now a year ago, or February for that matter.
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14th November 2009, 03:38 #10
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Originally Posted by Sonic
Agreed though. We might be in the situation (hope not) where a couple of the new drivers might not be up to it, leading to crashes at the start or more likely at Monaco
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