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    R-Classes News

    What are the latest on the R-Classes?

    Was Renault to make both R1 and R2 Twingos in addition to the Clio R3 ?
    Just missing a Renault S2000 or 1,6WRC and then they have a complete line up, and will that be a Gordini?

    What else is happening in the R classes, will FIA kill off all the other classes in international rallies, to simplify the lineup?

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    Toyota GT86 CS-R3 - Gravel-Spec test

    --> http://rallyemag.de/GT86R3Gravel

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWJ View Post
    Toyota GT86 CS-R3 - Gravel-Spec test

    --> http://rallyemag.de/GT86R3Gravel
    Looking great. Does anybody have footage of this test?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hofmannr View Post
    Looking great. Does anybody have footage of this test?
    http://www.tageblatt.de/tv-fotos/vid...oid,10668.html

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    New Fiesta R2 1,0t teaser with Evans

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=zSwLAVVijxY

    Turbo sound is always great even when the engine is so small

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowSon View Post
    Turbo sound is always great even when the engine is so small
    I prefer sound of atmospheric engines...

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    So new R2T Fiesta mk8.
    Will this one also come as R1T and R3T or R3C maybe?

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    Timo van der Marel will drive an Adam R2 in the Dutch championship with some support of the importer.
    SimRace Vereniging Nederland
    www.srvn.nl

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    Now we have issues discussed in several threads about the new R class cars hitting the market in 2020. Better to discuss Rally 5 up to Rally 3(R1-R3)
    R2 has been and still is a success, while R1 has not in most markets. The new one seems to have better odds.

    And to get new people into the sport, the minor classes are important for recruitmemt and driver development.

    Some quotes from other threads:

    That would be a surprise. The new R1/R2/R3 rules have turned R1 into a sort of R2- and R3 into a R2+, as they all can now get a 5 speed sequential gearbox and a turbo engine up to 1333cc (with tuning levels upgraded according to the class). The new Clio has 1323cc and Renault Sport main aim is to provide an economical car for their rally cups; it’d be strange if they choose to develop it under the more expensive R3 class.

    Anyway, from what I’ve heard (and mostly read) RS will start with a cheaper Clio (limited to 180cv) for rally cups use (probably a R1 or a ligth spec R2) and later provide a Kit (full R2 or, less likely, R3) for the drivers/teams eager to figth for 2wd wins. At the end of the month we’ll know better.

    FIA has published new regulations that supports their new ladder for new talent. https://www.fia.com/file/75687/download/20698?token
    Even if the cost of the R1 cars has gone up, it looks and feel like a car is a more buildt for purpose than the old, more standard cars. And the old ones are still allowed to use, and have good prices, but will then have a more intern competition, but a cheap ticket into the sport.

    New Rally class ladder

    https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/1...der-stepped-up

    What I do not see in the FIA documemt, is something on the new 4wd rally 3 car, but I might have missed it, or it is too early?

    From the R1 thread with tech detail:
    Renault Sport simply calls it ‘Clio Rally’ but as expected the new Clio is a R1 rally car, developed according to future Rally 5 regs. Despite the 1.3T engine, tech specs are quite similar to the Fiesta R1 (5speed sgb, lsd, +30cv,-30kg) for an announced price of 42.000€ (4k less than Fiesta). For now it seems RS will be pretty busy building new cars for their 3 cups (Rally, Racing, RX) but a R2 kit could soon follow (bolder rumours also mention a Rally 3 version?!?).

    ENGINE
    Type : Renault HR13 – 4 Cylinders 1330cm3 Turbocharged
    Max. Power : 180 BHP
    Max. Torque : 300 N.m.
    Cooling : Standard modified
    Fuel management : Direct Injection Max. Engine Speed : 6500 rpm Electronics : ECU Life Racing
    Fuel : SP98 Unleaded

    Ford/MSport

    Engine: turbo charged 999cc Ford EcoBoost
    Horsepower: 150 HP at 5,750 RPM
    Torque: 200Nm at 5,000 RPM

    Prices:
    the conversion kit is priced at €26,990.00 + VAT (not including donor car or wheels)
    the fully-built, ready-to-race car is priced at €45,990.00 + VAT

    Who's buying?

    More details at:
    https://www.m-sport.co.uk/single-pos...FORD-FIESTA-R1

    Technical specification:
    https://gallery.mailchimp.com/8fb932...cification.pdf

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    The Adam has excellent suspensions I was very impressed with it even on our bumpy and rough stages!
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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