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    I think its a mixture of car and driver.

    Toyota easily come across as idiots. Their blows hot and cold seemingly without reason and I get the impression Toyota don't even know themselves.

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    They never had a hot shot driver who could out drive the car. Toyota's drivers have been inconsistant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pino
    Howett is an idiot ! Toyota should criticise themself for costantly building a crap car and making so many wrong-strategy and mistakes
    A top driver like Kimi, Massa or Hamilton could have done far more with the Toyota car than Glock and Trulli have done. Maybe even a win.
    The issue here is that none of those drivers have any interest in Toyota, so probably they should stick with Trulli and Glock. They are good drivers, thats it. Not great or exceptional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pino
    Howett is an idiot ! Toyota should criticise themself for costantly building a crap car and making so many wrong-strategy and mistakes
    I don't think the car is crap, it is just inconsistent. IMO the drivers are doing a solid job but perhaps they need a change, five years with Trulli is maybe a bit too much. Maybe some other driver could rejuvenate them.
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    In your face Howett ! now less talking and more working...
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    hey...two podiums in two races,that def tells a lot about the car and the drivers.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by harsha
    hey...two podiums in two races,that def tells a lot about the car and the drivers.....
    But the differences between the two drivers in different races (meaning that in some races one is nowhere and one is quite competitive) suggests that they have to take some (not all) of the responsibility regarding the inconsistency the team has showed this year, and indeed in the previous years.
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    Trulli and glock have done a super job this season, and probably should have done better after their early promise. Glock i think has stood out for the team, whereas we all know trulli's talent when given a decent car. I don't think the car development was quite managed well enough and that is what cost Toyota during the mid season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevie_gerrard
    Trulli and glock have done a super job this season, and probably should have done better after their early promise. Glock i think has stood out for the team, whereas we all know trulli's talent when given a decent car. I don't think the car development was quite managed well enough and that is what cost Toyota during the mid season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pino
    Howett is an idiot ! Toyota should criticise themself for costantly building a crap car and making so many wrong-strategy and mistakes
    Certainly one thing we agree on Pino
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    Quote Originally Posted by ratonmacias
    engineers gain seconds per lap drivers gain thousands per lap.
    That is true nowadays.
    Still I have my doubts that Glock and Trulli would have been any better than Button and Rubens in the best car out there.
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