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    No, the running cost of RRC cars is approximately double to R5. R5 aren't more expensive to run than S2000 (in some cases they are even cheaper - Fiesta R5 compared to Fiesta S2000). You can check M-Sport website, service intervals and prices shall be available there. Some prices for WRC/RRC cars are ridiculously high. If I remember standard engine rebuild for Fabia S2000 was 11 thousand Euro but for Mini WRC/RRC it was nearly 30 thousand and Fiesta wasn't much cheaper.
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    Double seems to be a bit exaggerate. RRC's parts are for sure more expensive but you won't have to replace them so frequently as on R5's. It's amazing to see how often R5 top teams replace their cars for new ones, while RRC's teams use them for several seasons.
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    I believe it's more than double but maybe somebody has some real data available. Anyway if I remember Fiesta WRC parts had very short service intervals, for gearbox it used to be only 400 km (it was before last evolution).

    I was told by a man running several Fiesta R5 and before several Fabias S2000 here in CZ that the running costs are circa same. Afaik normally it was around 100 Euro/km. I can't imagine how You can push WRC car under 200 Euro. Some very old WRC cars for sure yes but modern ones?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    I believe it's more than double but maybe somebody has some real data available. Anyway if I remember Fiesta WRC parts had very short service intervals, for gearbox it used to be only 400 km (it was before last evolution). I was told by a man running several Fiesta R5 and before several Fabias S2000 here in CZ that the running costs are circa same. Afaik normally it was around 100 Euro/km. I can't imagine how You can push WRC car under 200 Euro. Some very old WRC cars for sure yes but modern ones?
    The announced R5's service intervals look like a rally myth. From what I've heard, R5 winning teams tend to use shorter intervals to prevent R5 reliability issues.

    Back to the French championship: why ban WRC's if they can continue to be competitive in 30mm RRC's specs? Why should a Fiesta or a Mini WRC owner have to sell his car at an unfair price (outlawed cars are always hugely depreciated) just because there's a rally monopoly that obliges everyone to get a R5?

    Take Italy case. If 30mm RRC’s would be allowed at CIR the series would be much stronger and run CIWRC alongside CIR would become redundant. Having different series for different rally classes isn’t the way to promote national rallying, especially when it’s not that difficult to put all classes together in a competitive way.

    Probably that has been FFSA major fault: being unable to get a proper BOP in order to match all top rally classes allowed at CFR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    The announced R5's service intervals look like a rally myth. From what I've heard, R5 winning teams tend to use shorter intervals to prevent R5 reliability issues.
    I don't speak about theoretic stuff. I wrote the experience from real team doing real rallies (even winning some international ones).
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    watch how stupid can be somebody.
    https://youtu.be/aKiwKAhLT78


    Sylvain moment
    https://youtu.be/wPXoUZtJhIk

    Brunson mistake
    https://youtu.be/uOXVH9zKEAM

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    Here is my video of the rally of the Meuse in 2016

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dPpAA5EKVI

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    watch how stupid can be somebody.
    https://youtu.be/aKiwKAhLT78
    Driver remain pretty cool. Very lucky escape for the "she's stupid or what? bit**" marshall!
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    Touquet video from FFSA

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