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7th December 2006, 16:00 #11
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Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
If you think your neighbourly chavs are bad wait till you see what our neighbours have done.......Rule 1 of the forum, always accuse anyone who disagrees with you of bias.I would say that though.
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7th December 2006, 16:04 #12
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Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
My frustration is with the politicians of almost all parties who have never stopped to think about the adverse effects of globalisation. Earlier today, I was listening to Peter Hain, the Welsh Secretary, talking in support of a campaign to stop Burberry from moving clothes production from Wales to somewhere cheap in the Far East. His arguments as to why they shouldn't move — just like all the arguments put forward by people from all parties as to why Airbus will never move production out of the UK — were entirely spurious, and failed to take into account the realities of mass production and globalisation. The same is true of the growth of economies such as those of India and China with their resulting environmental impacts. This has been allowed to happen in part because globalisation is inevitable, and is seen as such by politicians and electorates, yet there seems to be surprise that it has had such an adverse environmental effect. Again, globalisation is all very well until these adverse effects hit home.
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7th December 2006, 16:06 #13
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Originally Posted by Hazell B
Don't get me wrong here people, I recycle, I use energy efficient light-bulbs and I even turn my TV off at night but I feel that my, abeit miniscule effort, each week is being undone by the likes of China and India in a matter of hours.
I'm a firm believer in global warming and believe we have witnessed serious climate change over the past few years. For me the problem is only going to get worse, no matter what many governments enforce because there are too many like China, India and the USA whose see it as a 'get rich at all costs situation' rather than the potential death of civilisation as we know it.:ninja: silent and deadly :ninja:
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7th December 2006, 16:10 #14
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Originally Posted by BDunnell
Every light fitting that will accept one has an energy-saving bulb, I recycle more than I thrown out (most weeks), I'm more aware of what I leave switched on... lots of little things which do add up. That doesn't mean I don't get upset when I see other people or other countries not making the effort.
As an aside, there's an article on the BBC website about plasma TVs being wasteful, and there's this delightful comment which I wish I'd made myself:
Who cares about how much power they consume? I know I don't. It doesn't matter what you do, there's always somebody sticking their oar in, whinging about eco this and eco that. If they're that concerned about it, why don't they develop a TV that doesn't use as much power. I have a 42" Plasma, it's switched off at the mains at night watched for 25 mins while I get ready for work and about 4 hours on an evening after my evening meal. The majority of people are not like these un-employed people who buy TV's like this from credit companies and sit on their rears all day watching Trisha and eating pot noodles, pumping out children all year so they don't have to work. I paid for my TV outright, I can buy what I want to buy when I want to buy it and use it how I see fit (within reason of course!)
Steven, Newcastle-Upon-TyneUseful F1 Twitter thingy: http://goo.gl/6PO1u
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7th December 2006, 16:19 #15
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Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
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7th December 2006, 16:25 #16
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Originally Posted by BDunnell
Tbh I don't see how having a nice TV makes you some sort of eco-devil. While a big LCD or Plasma is surely a luxury I don't see it as being OTT or anything. I also think their comparison of LCD/Plasma vs CRT is somewhat off. With desktiop monitors LCD's crap all over CRT's for energy consumption.Rule 1 of the forum, always accuse anyone who disagrees with you of bias.I would say that though.
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7th December 2006, 16:32 #17
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Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
So... we want our cake and eat it too. We want our plasma t.v. and we want it cheap. The environment suffers.“If everything's under control, you're going too slow.” Mario Andretti
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7th December 2006, 17:20 #18
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I recycle when I can and have those energy-efficient lightbulbs as well. I actually prefer the softer light the give out too. My local supermarket has a "bag for life" scheme where you buy a sturdy shopping bag for 50p rather than use the carriers - I have three "bags for life" now, two of which are two years old! Refusing extra packaging is always a good idea.
My houseplants are watered with collected rainwater as well.Speedqueens website is offline while I rehome it, but it will be back, and much bigger than before.
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7th December 2006, 17:30 #19
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Originally Posted by LotusElise“If everything's under control, you're going too slow.” Mario Andretti
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7th December 2006, 17:37 #20
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