Results 11 to 17 of 17
Thread: Brickyard 400 Troubles?
-
29th May 2009, 05:25 #11
- Join Date
- Sep 2007
- Posts
- 2,240
- Like
- 0
- Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I think NASCAR should get rid of Goodyear and go to Firestone.
IndyCar doesnt have all those tire problems with Firestone. They are an excellent tire.Danica Patrick- 2013 Sprint Cup Series Champion
-
29th May 2009, 12:19 #12
- Join Date
- Nov 2002
- Location
- North Carolina
- Posts
- 6,343
- Like
- 0
- Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by DanicaFan"If you can help others, and fail to do so, your time on earth has been wasted" - Roberto Clemente
-
29th May 2009, 23:32 #13
- Join Date
- Aug 2002
- Location
- Kyle Busch bandwagon
- Posts
- 33,192
- Like
- 0
- Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
The COT is more like stockcars of the 50's & 60's, bulky & not aero dependent ...
it makes me wonder if the bias-ply race tires like they used in the 50's & 60's would stand up to Indy2008 ESPN Stockcar Challenge MSF Champion :D
2007 Yahoo! Boogity Boogity Boogity Champion :D
-
30th May 2009, 16:21 #14
- Join Date
- Apr 2003
- Posts
- 14,547
- Like
- 0
- Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Originally Posted by RaceFanStan
Well they wont go back to the Bias ply's I suspect. This issue is compound related, not construction.
AS for them not being Aero dependent, explain why then the leader in clean air always says the car's handling is better up front. They are not as bad for aeropush as the twisted sister, but clean air being a factor still speaks to aero issues.
As for the idea above someone mentioned that the Firestones don't have an issue, I would point out that Firestone has been going to Indy for years, the modern Dallara is an easy car to design tires for since the tires are bigger and the car is a lot smaller and lower. The COT design is to make driving more driver dependent, and a side effect of this is the higher center of gravity that was mandated to give the car a harder and more twitchy nature. The downside is the tires are small compared to the weight and height of the car, and I think the techology of race tires is being pushed to the limit with this car at a flat fast track like Indy. You toss in the fact TG had the joint diamond ground, and it is like the old Darlington with higher speeds, less banking. IT is the worst possible scenario for a race tire on a car like this. I think Goodyear will give it a good shot, they have put the effort in this year, but I think unless the COT is given bigger tires with more tread, I really think the problem is unsolvable under the current rules.
I am not a tire engineer, but from what I have read and heard about last years debacle and the efforts being made this year, it has come down to the reality that no tire that size has been asked to do what this race tire is being asked to do. It may be unsolvable...."Water for my horses, beer for my men and mud for my turtle".
-
30th May 2009, 18:15 #15
- Join Date
- Aug 2002
- Location
- Kyle Busch bandwagon
- Posts
- 33,192
- Like
- 0
- Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
there has to be a solution ...
Maybe scrapping the outdated 15 inch wheels & tires would be a good idea ...
I think 17 inch wheels with lower sidewall tires could be a better solution.
(15 tires have a lot of sidewall flexing, low profile 17 inch tires could reduce that greatly.)2008 ESPN Stockcar Challenge MSF Champion :D
2007 Yahoo! Boogity Boogity Boogity Champion :D
-
31st May 2009, 07:09 #16
- Join Date
- Jul 2004
- Location
- Quakertown, Pennsylvania
- Posts
- 3,406
- Like
- 0
- Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawaracing-reference.info/showblog?id=1785
9 Simple Rules as Suggested by a Nerd
-
10th June 2009, 18:36 #17
- Join Date
- Apr 2003
- Posts
- 14,547
- Like
- 0
- Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts
After the last Goodyear test, they had 11 cars there and they were running up to 30 laps plus. I guess they figured out the puzzle....
"Water for my horses, beer for my men and mud for my turtle".
These really are great videos.
Hyundai WRT