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Thread: Big Carl Long Fine
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24th May 2009, 00:09 #21
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I gotta disagree with y'all. Long was in it to make a few bucks and that was the only reason. Through 2006, according to NASCAR.com, Carl made a total of 1,478,168 dollars. He made over a half mil in 2005 in 9 starts.
The illegal engine could help him improve his position in the race a few places and that meant more money for him. No sympathy from me, sorry."If you can help others, and fail to do so, your time on earth has been wasted" - Roberto Clemente
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24th May 2009, 16:33 #22
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Carl Long races with liitle money
my sympathy for him is that he bought the engine thinking it was good to go
the person who sold the oversize engine should be penalized not Carl Long
it seems so unfair to be fined points and big money for an engine that blewup anyway in a non points race
anybody remember T-Rex?
Evernham threw exotic metals and chassis tweaks because it was a nonpoints race
Jeff Gordon dominated and won the Winston walking away with the big check
nascar said to never bring T-Rex back but there was no fine or points penalty
can anybody explain the double standard for a nonpoints race?
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24th May 2009, 22:31 #23
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Evernham didn't actually break any rules. NASCAR never said you had to use certain metals and can only build the suspension a certain way. The car still conformed to the letter of the rules. An engine with a displacement of 358.17 inches against a limit of 358 inches does not conform to the letter of the rules.
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9 Simple Rules as Suggested by a Nerd
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24th May 2009, 23:24 #24Originally Posted by RaceFanStan
I understand the need for rules and penalties, but this is overkill to an extreme. Max Mosley might be working for NASCAR part time now."Every generation's memory is exactly as long as its own experience." --John Kenneth Galbraith
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24th May 2009, 23:30 #25
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I'm sure the entry form includes information about being responsible for penalites and fines. NASCAR can sue for breach of contract.
Of course if they go that route, they risk exposing the rule book to public record.racing-reference.info/showblog?id=1785
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25th May 2009, 06:31 #26
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25th May 2009, 15:29 #27
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Originally Posted by oldhippie
As to the money the fine seems extremely excessive IMO.2008 ESPN Stockcar Challenge MSF Champion :D
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25th May 2009, 15:49 #28
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Originally Posted by Jonesi
if my math is correct, that equates to .001 - .0015 inch per cylinder in added bore size. cylinder walls within the block do indeed enlarge with wear and tear that does create a slighty larger bore.
throw in the fact that the thing could have torched a head gasket when it got hot, it would be realtively easy to explain the slightly larger bore size.
this fine and suspension is B.S.
nascar has taken a page from bill clinton's play book. when monica and bill were in the news, bill offered up a distraction to divert attention. same thing here with carl long............
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25th May 2009, 15:52 #29
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SEE what they did today:
CONCORD, N.C. (AP)—NASCAR randomly drug-tested 10 crew members from 10 teams during the rain delay at the Coca-Cola 600, an apparent tweak to the first three months of in-season testing.
Prior to Sunday night, crew chiefs said NASCAR typically informed them when the garage opened if a team member had been selected to give a sample. The individual had four hours to report to testing. Drivers can be tested on any day of the race weekend.
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25th May 2009, 16:17 #30
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I wonder if anyone failed their drug test ...
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First leg he will be thinking in Portuguese championship. Then he can go for WRC2.
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