Eurovision 2009

[gadjo_dilo]

What's this century's style, then? Slutty girls singing about partying? :

Nah! It's more about a strong voice making you feel some emotions even if you don't understand the lyrics. Something like the song that won in 2007 ( Serbia - Molitva ).

[Daniel]

Nothing to do with politics. UK managed to get points because for the first time in years they presented a singer who can sing. If the song itself hadn't been so boring ( a perfect match for a Disney film presented on the night of Oscars ) you would have had serious chances to win.

I'm sorry but that is an absolute load of rubbish. The Eastern Bloc countries used to vote for each other no matter what. With the change in voting system I think the results were a lot more indicative of reality.

[gadjo_dilo]

I'm sorry but that is an absolute load of rubbish. The Eastern Bloc countries used to vote for each other no matter what. With the change in voting system I think the results were a lot more indicative of reality.

Give me a break. Some things never change. The national juries couldn't stop all ex-yugoslavian countries to vote for Bosnia. Moldova and Romania exchanged 12 points between them despite their average songs. Cyprus voted for Greece, etc. It's a fact that some " little churches " functioned in the past ( even before the eastern block was allowed in competition ) and they are still alive.
The idea is that a good song may get points from every country and a bad one has no chance.
How else can you explain that last year many countries from the east couldn't get to the final despite the "support" of the neighbours?

More than that, UK and France did quite well because sent good voices, Germany and Spain did very bad because mantained their usual way to treat the competition.

[Daniel]

Give me a break. Some things never change. The national juries couldn't stop all ex-yugoslavian countries to vote for Bosnia. Moldova and Romania exchanged 12 points between them despite their average songs. Cyprus voted for Greece, etc. It's a fact that some " little churches " functioned in the past ( even before the eastern block was allowed in competition ) and they are still alive.
The idea is that a good song may get points from every country and a bad one has no chance.
How else can you explain that last year many countries from the east couldn't get to the final despite the "support" of the neighbours?

More than that, UK and France did quite well because sent good voices, Germany and Spain did very bad because mantained their usual way to treat the competition.

But it's clear and obvious this year that national rivalries and alliances were less of a factor in the voting.

[gadjo_dilo]

Believe what you want. From my point of view the votes went as usual. The only thing that I can't get every year ( with a few exceptions, of course ) is the criteria that makes a song to be voted by most of the countries.

Now let's see which countries won 12 points ( with a jury contribution of 50% ) :
Norway - 16 times
Turkey - 6 times
Iceland - 3 times
Bosnia & Herzegovina - 3 times
Greece - 3 times
Estonia - twice
Moldova - twice
Armenia - once
Spain - once
United Kingdom - once
Croatia - once
Azerbaijan - once
Romania - once
Russia - once

Since the jury had an important word I have doubts about the juries "competence".

[Drew]

But it's clear and obvious this year that national rivalries and alliances were less of a factor in the voting.

I definitely agree with that, although alot of the time it seemed as if nothing had changed

I'm glad the Norwegian song won and I really like the Estonian song too, strangely

[EuroTroll]

and I really like the Estonian song too, strangely

You are wise beyond your years! :

[Eki]

You are wise beyond your years! :

Yes, senile and demented.

[EuroTroll]

Yes, senile and demented.

Quiet, you! You and your like gave us 12 points. No escaping that, now! :

[Dave B]

Looking back at my score sheet in the cold light of day and it's apparent how my handwriting deteriorates during the evening, almost as if it was directly linked to alcohol consumption.