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5th April 2009, 03:36 #11
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Originally Posted by woody2goody
[youtube]PrBoA1X5PpQ[/youtube]May the forza be with you
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5th April 2009, 03:42 #12
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Originally Posted by Tazio
He said he got his revenge last year in France though. Good on him
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5th April 2009, 04:12 #13
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Originally Posted by TazioCasey Stoner: 2007 World Champion
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5th April 2009, 06:50 #14
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IMO BMW will win the titles, but we have to wait and see.
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5th April 2009, 12:59 #15
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An important factor that Toyota need to watch out for is not to make their current form plateau. Personally myself, I reckon BMW, Renault, Williams and Red Bull will excel and improve further throughout the year. I'm yet to be convinced about Ferrari and McLaren, but these are really just my own hunches. Brawn need to be careful of this mass threat too. I think if Toyota keep up their current form,and then keep applying that extra edge as the development moves on, then they could well be in the hunt for the title. But only as much as their rivals. I don't see them possessing any distinct advantage over every team, but so far they're keeping themselves well in contention.
Tír gan teanga, tír gan anam
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5th April 2009, 16:02 #16
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Originally Posted by Bagwan
For me it's not really exciting to start cheering for someone at the front, but to choose someone from the bottom. Not to take an 'established' team, but to start following a new team, growing up together with them and following all of their steps in trying to establish themselves. ToyotaF1 ticks the box in these areas. Unlike many others they have very little racing heritage and are on course of creating one. It wasn't before 1996 as an engine supplier in CART they really started participating in notable racing series, having had WRC as their main motorsport activity before.
As for being loyal, hard times have only strengthened the support, making more compassionate. But times have been hard. I think the year of 2007 was the most difficult one of all. Back then, I must admit, it was impossible, just plain impossible to keep belief in a future breakthrough. I was fond of alternative options, how to minimise losses and come out with at least some kind of dignity - by investing into Williams and to become a front-runner at least as an engine supplier. I think this was the time, when besides the team itself almost no-one else believed in them. But it was the same 2007, when suddenly something clicked at Cologne - they finally made right conclusions of shortcomings and made decisions, how to start moving forward. At that time it wasn't apparent and for an outside observer they seemed lost.
http://www.motorsportforums.com/foru...ghlight=Toyota
A bit more than a year ago after 2008 Malaysian Grand Prix I brought out reasons for Toyota's rise. Those explanations are in my view appropriate also now. Back then that 4th place in that GP probably couldn't have meant much to a casual observer, but it meant a lot for me. It was like a lightning from a clear sky. It was the first sign of Toyota's commitment to break clear of the midfield and start troubling established top teams. And that sudden 'shine' came from almost nowhere, it was unexpected.
As long as results improve, there is every reason to be satisfied. Today's race marked another improvement for the team. This was Toyota' best ever wet weather performance by a mile. P3 and P4, while in the past they have never managed to get above P6 in rain. Also the strategy at least for Glock was great. It's quite incredible to see so much maturity in the team, who a few years ago reminded more of the... well yes, current Ferrari team if you'd like a comparison...
Finally. I'm not a betting man at all, but I may unveil that before the start of the season I just couldn't resist the very enticing odds on Toyota's WCC title... I took a huge gamble, but based on their winter testing performance, their general improvement and transformation as a team created belief that they are going to perform way above the expectations of most people. At the moment it looks like the title might not be an impossible goal at all.
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5th April 2009, 19:39 #17
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Originally Posted by jens
No seriously I have great affection for Toyota - when its bolted in the back of a Williams!All other opinions are wrong....
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5th April 2009, 19:47 #18
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5th April 2009, 22:25 #19
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Where's pino?
He would enjoy all the attention on Jarno.Defend mediocrity... because excelence is just too hard to achieve. :p
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Originally Posted by Sonic
There is an engine freeze currently on, so there's not really going to be any development there, and given that Ross Brawn is in charge, we're likely to see him innovate his way through the rules.
2 from 2 is a pretty foreboding sort of beginning for everyone else.The Old Republic was a stupidly run organisation which deserved to be taken over. All Hail Palpatine!
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