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    Why would Kris not be going to Catalunya? I thought the driver line up was already chosen for Spain?

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    He was supposed to go to Poland too...

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    Can anyone update me on what happened to Meeke's car in Germany? I know he crashed in Saarbrucken but he did restart after that. Next think I know the car is covered up on Sat night. I couldn't get internet in Germany and nothing was mentioned on WRC news or the highlights (is he not worth a mention anymore?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinu13 View Post
    Can anyone update me on what happened to Meeke's car in Germany? I know he crashed in Saarbrucken but he did restart after that. Next think I know the car is covered up on Sat night. I couldn't get internet in Germany and nothing was mentioned on WRC news or the highlights (is he not worth a mention anymore?)
    Water pump failure, they didn't want to continue to risk overheating the engine. Also Paul Nagle's wife gave birth to a baby on Saturday so it was another reason not to do rally2 on sunday, and they didn't feel like achieving anything on the sunday stages either.

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    My impression of Kris Meeke is that he can still become a World Champion if he just manages to relax himself in the car a couple of notches somehow, it is not a question of talent or speed and the age is not a problem either. But when I watch a Kris Meeke onboard, even his amazing Ouninpohja onboard from 2016, it's like watching something that is wound a bit too tight and which would perform a lot better if it was a bit looser. His basic driving style is very nice and smooth and he has everything it takes in that sense. But I think his pacenotes are a big problem. Just way too much information in my opinion, which eventually leads to more mistakes as the brain has too much information to process at the same time. I think Petter Solberg also ended up having the same problem in his career. More information is only good until a certain point from where it will become a big disadvantage. It feels like Meeke's co-driver often has to hurry to keep up and somehow it is all a bit too intense and forced from both Meeke and Nagle, rather than a nice and relaxed performance. I would go with Nicky Grist type of reading and Colin McRae level of simplicity any day over Kris Meeke notes.

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    Maybe also Richard Burns was too much ambitious with his pace notes.

    Best example of the other way around must be Tommie Makinen in Finland. Don´t know his PN in other rallies.
    "Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
    Tommi Mäkinen, back in the years...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiK7 View Post
    My impression of Kris Meeke is that he can still become a World Champion if he just manages to relax himself in the car a couple of notches somehow, it is not a question of talent or speed and the age is not a problem either. But when I watch a Kris Meeke onboard, even his amazing Ouninpohja onboard from 2016, it's like watching something that is wound a bit too tight and which would perform a lot better if it was a bit looser. His basic driving style is very nice and smooth and he has everything it takes in that sense. But I think his pacenotes are a big problem. Just way too much information in my opinion, which eventually leads to more mistakes as the brain has too much information to process at the same time. I think Petter Solberg also ended up having the same problem in his career. More information is only good until a certain point from where it will become a big disadvantage. It feels like Meeke's co-driver often has to hurry to keep up and somehow it is all a bit too intense and forced from both Meeke and Nagle, rather than a nice and relaxed performance. I would go with Nicky Grist type of reading and Colin McRae level of simplicity any day over Kris Meeke notes.
    Unless my memory deceives me, Paul reads the notes really close to the actual corner... like notes for only one corner ahead. Many other drivers have notes several corners ahead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itix View Post
    Unless my memory deceives me, Paul reads the notes really close to the actual corner... like notes for only one corner ahead. Many other drivers have notes several corners ahead.
    May be so, in Monte Meeke's off on the first stage the "respect the ice" note seems to came when the car was already in trouble.
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI

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    I agree.. I've often wondered how on earth Kris takes in so much information. And yes I thought the same about Solberg.

    I wonder if a new notes system or even a new co-driver could be tried, assuming it is an issue ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    I agree.. I've often wondered how on earth Kris takes in so much information. And yes I thought the same about Solberg.

    I wonder if a new notes system or even a new co-driver could be tried, assuming it is an issue ?
    Don't forget - he has won rallys with this co-driver and he must feel comfortable with these notes, otherwise why wouldn't he have changed them by now?

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