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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    it’s a shame, and a waste for the sport, only allow Gt’s to rally when undermined by small restrictors.
    why the restrictors are ''small''?????
    even with these ''small'' restrictors are more powerfull from r5 cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    why the restrictors are ''small''?????
    even with these ''small'' restrictors are more powerfull from r5 cars.
    Honestly I don’t get why you’re still resuming these R5 vs GT on the 911’s max power. What about R5 rally purposed design, superior handling, 4wd transmission and turbo engine? They’re different concepts, each one has their advantages and weaknesses and it’s possible to make them rallying without undermine them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    Honestly I don’t get why you’re still resuming these R5 vs GT on the 911’s max power.
    because this was the reason they won.Not from driving.As you see at Spain ,they are still faster at starights,but cant win,another car that dont follow fia rules.is that normal for you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    What about R5 rally purposed design, superior handling, 4wd transmission and turbo engine? They’re different concepts, each one has their advantages and weaknesses and it’s possible to make them rallying without undermine them.
    all these you wrote about ''purposed design'' ''superior handling'' etc are inside the rules.Nobody of any r5 car choosed to have 150 bhp more than another r5 car.,nore fatter tyres.
    if they want to compete are welcome,but not to steal the glory from the players that follow the rules.
    Really cant understand why you want to compete 911s with power advantage that they use at straights.Is this rallying?
    whats the problem to compete with same weight/power as r5 cars? they still oversteer,there are sideways,and the engine sound is present.
    Really cant find one reason why they have to compete with 150 bhp more,and still nobody has give me his opinion here after so many times we have discussed to death.

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    Ok dimviii, it’s pretty obvious we’ll never agree on this one. Just one question: have you ever seen one of these modern 911's driven by a top driver on a rally stage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    Is this rallying?
    And what is rallying?
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    Really cant find one reason why they have to compete with 150 bhp more,and still nobody has give me his opinion here after so many times we have discussed to death.
    So it seems You believe Group B was a mistake? I still see people (including me more or less) are a bit of nostalgic of those times....
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
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    Quote Originally Posted by stefanvv View Post
    So it seems You believe Group B was a mistake?
    no because all cars were running under same rules.

    Quote Originally Posted by stefanvv View Post
    I still see people (including me more or less) are a bit of nostalgic of those times....
    and some others are nostalgic about volvos and rwd escorts.So what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    Ok dimviii, it’s pretty obvious we’ll never agree on this one. Just one question: have you ever seen one of these modern 911's driven by a top driver on a rally stage?
    i ve drive plenty of 911s,but no i dont have seen at rallies. But will not impress me a slower car at corners,that take advantage at straights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefanvv View Post
    And what is rallying?
    try to find out.As you find,you will not ask for competitors with 150 bhp advantage at cars that are not suited for rallies.

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