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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Boyd View Post
    Thanks Ucci.

    That timing method does make the driver's start of the stage critical and good timekeeping even more important than usual to report anyone breaking the beam early.
    A lot of national level compeitors in UK say don't wait for zero always go on 1 because you won't get a penalty. It's true because the penaly in UK national rules is 1 minute for a false start (FIA is 10 seconds for the first time) so many organisers won't give 1 minute penalty for 1 second at the start. These competitors then have a shock on international rallies when they find they get 10 seconds added the first time and then 1 minute added the second time.
    I dont know how is it in UK, but on international scene (and also in Czech for example) there are photocells 40 cm behind the start line and they are connected to printer and clocks. It is automatic process and if there is jump start, it is printed and no other chance than to give penalty. But for sure, photocell is not just on start line, so if you start just before zero and cross the line earlier (but in time for line of photocell), it is ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PLuto View Post
    I dont know how is it in UK, but on international scene (and also in Czech for example) there are photocells 40 cm behind the start line and they are connected to printer and clocks. It is automatic process and if there is jump start, it is printed and no other chance than to give penalty. But for sure, photocell is not just on start line, so if you start just before zero and cross the line earlier (but in time for line of photocell), it is ok.
    Hi Pluto
    Many events in the UK, but not all, have a timing beam on the start line but the regulations say that a jump start, even with a beam, has to be reported by the timekeeper. It is then a Clerk of the Course decision whether to apply a penalty. As the standard penalty in the UK is 1 minute (not 10 s) many clerks don't apply the penalty unless the report and the clocks show 2 seconds or more. This makes stage timing to 0.1 seconds nonsense and frustrates me. Having worked in results on many events to both UK and FIA regulations, I much prefer the FIA system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Boyd View Post
    Hi Pluto
    Many events in the UK, but not all, have a timing beam on the start line but the regulations say that a jump start, even with a beam, has to be reported by the timekeeper. It is then a Clerk of the Course decision whether to apply a penalty. As the standard penalty in the UK is 1 minute (not 10 s) many clerks don't apply the penalty unless the report and the clocks show 2 seconds or more. This makes stage timing to 0.1 seconds nonsense and frustrates me. Having worked in results on many events to both UK and FIA regulations, I much prefer the FIA system.
    Yes, FIA system is much better. In case of jump start, it is very easy to say if it is jump start or not. Zero tolerance, you should start on exact time and anything before (it just can be 0,1) is jump start. I think that ability to make correct start in time (not early, but also not so much late) is part of drivers quality. Keep decision on CoC if he wants to give penalty or not is quite crazy... Despite I agree that 1 minute penalty for first jump start is quite too much.

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